Photoperiod Cannaficionado Grow Thread. (Organic)

Day 1 Veg
I forgot to tag the sprouts popping out as day 1 so I guess we'll make it today. About a 2 day discrepancy. Appearently the photo size got an update and I can upload my 200mp pics. This grow should be fun to journal now.

Sluricane #7 S1
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Forbidden Jelly
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Veg Week 1
Making my week one post today (Friday) working a 12 hour shift tomorrow and Saturday so I know I'll forget.

Everything is par for the course right now, both plants are pumping out their 2 node. Healthy and green, the Forbidden Jelly seems to be a little ahead, 2nd node is almost fully formed where as the Slurricane #7 is basically just beginning to form the 2nd node.

Pots are still plenty heavy so no water.

Slurricane #7 S1
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Forbidden Jelly
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Thats all for now thanks for stopping by!
 
Veg Week 2
Today marks the end of week 2

Im gonna start breaking down info for each plant separately instead of giving the run down for both all in 1 paragraph.

Slurricane #7 S1
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She appears to be doing phenomenally. Not counting the first set of true leaves shes is working on the 3rd node and side branching is well under way. Figure I will be topping her by this time next week. Bag has some heaft to it still so I probably won't add any water today, but I will tomorrow regardless if its lost any weight or not. Its about half its saturated weight right now. Leaves are a little contorted but thats normal for Happy Frog around this time, at least in my experience, other than that this girl is just cruising along. Seems to really enjoy being alive and growing.

Forbidden Jelly
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This girl is still struggling a bit. Thinking this strain is a light feeder and thats why she isn't as robust as the other girl. Bag is significantly heavier than the Slurricane so she will not be getting water till probably Tuesday at the earliest. She is starting to come around though, no more spots showing up newest set of leaves looks great other than some minor downward clawing but I think part of that is I overwatered her, so I'm letting her dry back, probably till the stems start to droop a little bit. But good news is that it didn't seem to stunt anything shes just as far along as the Slurricane just smaller all around.

Thanks for stopping by.
 
Veg Week 3
So its the end of week 3 and the girls are doing so well.

Slurricane #7 S1
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Im getting excited for this one, structure is out of this world good. Node spacing just everything. Looking fantastic. Gave her .5 gallons of water with a tsp of fox farm microbe brew and a tsp of KMKY (kelp). Its a 1/2 dose for each so a very light feed and microbe/fungus boost for the root zone.

Forbidden Jelly
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This one is starting to come around, leaves are not as pale as they were during the first 2 weeks. Also gave her .25 gallons of water with the same stuff as the Slurricane got. She's definitely gonna be smaller than the other. Node spacing is pretty tight and shes about 4 inches shorter than the Slurrican so you'd think she'd be stretching towards the light, but not so with her which is fine. Just making it a little more difficult to lst.

Thats all for today.
 
Veg Week 4 New
My Slurricane #7 S1 is starting to have problems as well as the Forbidden Jelly. Not sure if its an imbalance or the plants are starting to get hungry. Since Im basically experimenting with this organic stuff I figured hungry. The instructions on the down to earth box says top dress once a month and this is about 1 week after that since I prepped my soil a week before I even dropped my beans.

The directions on the box say 1-2 tablespoons per gallon of medium per month, so what I did was mix up 7 tablespoons of the 4-4-4 along with 2 tablespoons of the 2-6-5. This may prove to be a mistake since the 2-6-5 has a higher p and k ratio, but it has the secondary and micro nutrients I think both plants are hungry for. Mixed in to the top inch or 2 of soil and watered it in with some liquid fox farm nutrients, very weak ones but I still added them to give the plants an immediately available source of sulphur/zinc. The Slurricane was showing signs of deficiencies of both along with a phosphorus deficiency. So I mixed in 2tsp of big bloom, and 2 tsp of microbe brew. The microbe brew added some microbes, zinc, copper and sulphur, and the big bloom gave some sulphur and a small bump of p and k.

Like I said Im not sure if what I an doing is the right thing. Im trying to read the plant to the best of my ability and respond accordingly. I probably should have taken pics but I'll upload some later. What Im seeing on the Slurricane is some necrotic spots popping up on the lower leaves they were kinda purplish before turning brown so I figured phosphorus deficiency, and up top the tips and margins are starting to get a little pale/yellow, and as far as I know thats either zinc or sulphur deficiency. It hasn't began on the Forbidden Jelly as much, the tips at the top are just starting to become pale but she looks like she is progressing the same as the slurricane, so hopefully what I did remedies the issue over the next 1-2 weeks.


Pics

Slurricane #7 S1
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So here's some pics, the overall plant amd the trouble Im seeing. Its all on the oldest and newest leaves which is what lead me to think hungry. Definitely not nitrogen starved but I think maybe other stuff. There is maybe too much N in the soil because the oldest leaves are also dark but they arent clawing and the stems aren't flimsy. I did do a quick check of my ph meter calibration and its dead on for the 2 setpoint calibration at 7 and 4. Im thinking of biting the bullet and getting a meter for the soil so I can test periodically. The grow star apera line is $180-200 the basic apera ph60s-e is $170. There's not much of a difference other than the grow star line is made specifically for soil whereas the ph60 line is made for general solid pH testing so I might spring for the grow star one when I get paid next Thursday. Im kind of sick of doing slurry tests.

Forbidden Jelly
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Not really much to show here, she's a little droopy because technically she got over watered. She was still pretty heafty when I decided to recharge the food supply. Other than that just a few new leaves had tips that were starting to yellow and theres very minimal purplish splotches to take pics of. One other thing I thought about is the spring water I collect. Im still wondering if thats messing with the nutrient balance somehow.
 
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Week 5 Veg New
Its a day late. But yesterday marked the end of week 5.

Slurricane #7 S1
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I did a pretty heavy defoliation and partial lollipop on this girl. Spread her branches out more so light can get down to the emerging secondary branches from the 2nd round of topping hopefully over the next 3 weeks to a month those branches will catch up to the canopy amd I will be flipping to flower.

Having some definite problems, not sure what exactly but the pale leaf tips are back and theres one leaf on there thats pointing to sulfur deficiency but its the only extra pale leaf on the plant. So Im not really sure about it. Been thinking of ordering some elemental sulfur amd adding a ⅛ to 1/16th of a teaspoon when I feed for flower which is coming up in about 10-14 days. Im not sure if I should do that. But I definitely think I should foliar spray some magnesium. Im really starting to think the cal/mag ratio is way out of whack. After all my veg feed is 6% calcium and 1% magnesium and usually I see closer to a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio not a 6:1.

Forbidden Jelly
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This plant is doing a little better but definitely showing signs of sulfur deficiency. All the new growth is coming in very pale and thats what's got me thinking sulfur deficiency on both plants. Once again I think its because my organic fertilizer doesn't have any in it, by now I think anything the soil was amended with is pretty much depleted.

Did the same defoliation and spreading of the branches. Only difference is because she's shorter by almost half a foot I haven't done a second round of topping.

Thats all for today thanks for stopping by
 
Veg Week 6 (as of Saturday. I forgot to post) New
Another week down. Plants are starting to not look so great. Forbidden Jelly seems to always be droopy and its hardly growing anymore, and the Slurricane #7 is showing a lot of interveinal chlorosis on the tops plus some brown spots popping up.

Ive just been giving them ph'd water when the pots are light, and some microbes once a week. The microbes have a little bit of food though so maybe thats causing problems its like a 1-.5-.5 or something and its got some iron and copper and molybdimum. Im wondering if they are starting to get hungry and I should mix in the flowering nutrients and flip over to flower. Might help a bit.

Took this pic 2 days ago after watering they look a tad worse today.
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Flip to Flower (Day 47) New
This may prove to be a big mistake, but my plants are really looking like shit. The Forbidden Jelly is just droop city. Every single leaf is drooping and its not over or under watered, I think I just suck at maintaining organics. But just like every grow, right around now I have nothing but problems, and after the flip the plants perk back up and then revert to crap again by the end of flower so I guess we'll see how this plays out. The Slurricane #7 has interveinal chlorosis and marginal chlorosis on a lot of the upper leaves and rust spots coming in on older leaves.

Since I chose today to flip to flower I did a heavy defoliation on both plants. Also top dressed with 5 tablespoons of the 2-6-5 Flower Garden, and added 1/64 of a teaspoon of magnesium sulfate. The calcium in this mix is super high at 8% so I tried to offset it a bit. Even though Epsom salt is readily available, I figured mixing it in to the top dress will dissolve it slow enough to help offset the calcium a bit.

Heres the pics, first is both plants followed by the Slurricane #7 and the Forbidden Jelly
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Ps. I think after this grow I will be working out some money and giving Build A Soil a go. Im not sure which soil Im gonna go with but I might just fork out the $450 to get the no till complete kit. Idk yet but I think a lot of my trouble is coming from my soil, and my nutrients. I think the combo created a pretty big imbalance, so Im just going to try and go for something completely tailored to growing cannabis.
 
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Week 7 (end of week 1 of flower) New
I just realized I forgot to make my weekly update on Saturday again!

So its been about 7 days since the flip to flower and the girls are stretching like crazy. The Slurricane #7 has grown at least 4 inches in the past week. Before the flip they were about 1ft plus a bit more from the light and today they were about 2-3 inches from touching the light. The Forbidden Jelly isnt stretching as much but its growing at a consistent rate compared to her tent mate. Relatively the same height in comparison. I might have to put her on a stand so she gets even ppfd. Because right now she's about 6in shorter.

With that said I have raised the light to the top of the tent, and bumped the power up to 80%. May be a week or 2 too early to bump it up but Im trying to control the stretch as much as possible on the Slurricane, she's definitely stretching pretty close to a half inch per day right now. 3 weeks of that will have her needing supercropping and I really haven't done much supercropping. I know its nothing to be scared of and it may actually make the plant respond positively to that kind of stress, but its a, I dont want to if I cant prevent it, kind of situation.

Heres some pics, with them getting as big as they are now Ive kiddy cornered the plants in the opposite corners of eachother. Slurricane is still on the right, but now in back and Forbidden Jelly is in the front on the left.
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Ive also been doing a shit ton of research on bioactive living soils and I think that Im going to pull the plug in October and buy the build a soil take and bake artisan soil building kit. Yes its 600 bucks but as far as I can see it will be worth the investment. It makes 70 gallons of soil that is basically good for a lifetime of use comes with a 100 fabric bag to do the mixing in, cover crop straw, organic inputs, and compost. You name it its there. Its a water only recipe and as far as I can tell besides adding some organic inputs every now and again to feed the biology in the soil you really dont have to do anything but keep it moist. I know its gonna take some practice to get it working right but I think after this grow Im gonna ditch the individual bags and get a custom grassroots living soil bed that will fit perfectly inside my tent. Their current bed that fits a 3x3 is exactly 3ft on both sides and my tent is only 35.5x35.5 so custom bed figure 34x34x1ft. I dont need the extra half foot in height. But that will be about 60-65 cubic feet of soil. So it will take almost the whole take and bake kit.

Thats all for today. Thanks for stopping by.
 
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