can't figure out what exactly is wrong

[G.Leave]

At this point I have not flushed at all, though last week I did give the moonstone, and the further flowering mango a 2litre of water, just to rinse 'em a bit.

I'd just proceed to do the flush as specified in tangs schedule, and then proceed with where you were in the schedule, that was my plan if I experienced any lockout issues. Not sure if that would be the right move or not?

 

[Discretepete2676]

That was my thought. ..flush real real good than the last bit of water I add continue on schedule lol hope for the best. I've never had to do this nor planned on it. Usually when I see something starting I just hit it with water for a day then back on schedule lol works great haha but not this time my friend. ...not this time. ..lol

 

[Waira]

:smoking: oh how I wish I could trust those pH readings .... you didn't amend your blend with additional lime did you? Otherwise, both are peat based, and naturally mildly acidic,...AN nute's are stable in pH as well, and you're using RO water--zero buffering capacity in there! ... sooooo, as usual, the question is if this is a lack-of defc., or a pH lockout... I wonder now, because if the pH was that high, there'd be Fe defc. symptoms by now; Fe locks out fast by 7.0,... new pics do help plenty! .... Here's my thinking: the bottoms look like plain 'ol' N defc., hardly unusual at this stage (and given AN's mildness and pH lockout of N is nearly impossible)... the mids-to-uppers, a tougher call,...both Fe and N defc. can start off looking like that early on,... check it out--- see the big fan, center left? note the paler centers area, greener margins (this is N defc.)-->

....Now here's a pic of more atypical Fe defc. -->

--- similar, BUT then you consider where on the plant it's hitting, and the suspect nutrients mobility within the plant; Fe is poorly mobile, so will pretty much always start at the tops, or tops will look the worst.... N is the opposite, fully mobile within the plant, and as such it's the lowers to lowest that get tapped into first and worst; that said, this all just might be N defc.... Plants take up and store N whether they need it or not, it's automatic! but if she's been running on thin soup because of the mild AN nute's, she may not have much in reserve, forcing this early tapping,... and mobilizing nute's takes energy away from other stuff--like blooming, which might be why she's stalled out some-?..... So, w/o an actual pH reading, my best guess is the pH is likely okay after all, (no signs of acidity lockout; P usually shows first); try a little extra N (grow nutes part of Sensi) for a couple rounds, and I'd hit her with a PK booster as well, at whatever dilution you think she'll handle (it's the ratio of NPK that's important, not so much the conc.), and see if you can kick her off the lazy chair! Otherwise, she looks great Pete! Ask NW if she's a notoriously slow bloomer too,...

 

[Discretepete2676]

:smoking: oh how I wish I could trust those pH readings .... you didn't amend your blend with additional lime did you? Otherwise, both are peat based, and naturally mildly acidic,...AN nute's are stable in pH as well, and you're using RO water--zero buffering capacity in there! ... sooooo, as usual, the question is if this is a lack-of defc., or a pH lockout... I wonder now, because if the pH was that high, there'd be Fe defc. symptoms by now; Fe locks out fast by 7.0,... new pics do help plenty! .... Here's my thinking: the bottoms look like plain 'ol' N defc., hardly unusual at this stage (and given AN's mildness and pH lockout of N is nearly impossible)... the mids-to-uppers, a tougher call,...both Fe and N defc. can start off looking like that early on,... check it out--- see the big fan, center left? note the paler centers area, greener margins (this is N defc.)-->

....Now here's a pic of more atypical Fe defc. -->

--- similar, BUT then you consider where on the plant it's hitting, and the suspect nutrients mobility within the plant; Fe is poorly mobile, so will pretty much always start at the tops, or tops will look the worst.... N is the opposite, fully mobile within the plant, and as such it's the lowers to lowest that get tapped into first and worst; that said, this all just might be N defc.... Plants take up and store N whether they need it or not, it's automatic! but if she's been running on thin soup because of the mild AN nute's, she may not have much in reserve, forcing this early tapping,... and mobilizing nute's takes energy away from other stuff--like blooming, which might be why she's stalled out some-?..... So, w/o an actual pH reading, my best guess is the pH is likely okay after all, (no signs of acidity lockout; P usually shows first); try a little extra N (grow nutes part of Sensi) for a couple rounds, and I'd hit her with a PK booster as well, at whatever dilution you think she'll handle (it's the ratio of NPK that's important, not so much the conc.), and see if you can kick her off the lazy chair! Otherwise, she looks great Pete! Ask NW if she's a notoriously slow bloomer too,...

Thanks for the help waira! But on a last second high on move today in my garden I decided I would just give her a quick flush of straight RO water....well more a cleansing. It's a 3 gal pot and it took one liter and started slowly draining out the bottom. I waited about 1 to 2 minutes between each adding of water and I ran 4 liters through all together and let it drain in the tub. Added no feed or anything. Upon thinking of my grow I recall multiple days where I force fed the plant and it wasn't quite as ready to eat as everyone else. I didn't give it very much individual attention and I believe caused a build up because her slower intake. User error. I looked at her today after work. About 8 hours later and she seems to have enjoyed it. After my phone charges a little more I'll take a couple pics and compare yesterday to today. See what to do from here. This doesn't happen often in my garden but I must have gotten too eager. Darn it.

 

[Discretepete2676]

Here's today. ...

 

[Discretepete2676]

Here's yesterday. She didn't seem to eat herself as much today and got done green back it seems. ..maybe a good cleansing is what she needed? @912GreenSkell does she look the same in the pics? If so I believe that's a good sign in getting things on track, not getting worse. ..I smoke and look at too many plants to remember this morning haha

 

[G.Leave]

:smoking: oh how I wish I could trust those pH readings .... you didn't amend your blend with additional lime did you? Otherwise, both are peat based, and naturally mildly acidic,...AN nute's are stable in pH as well, and you're using RO water--zero buffering capacity in there! ... sooooo, as usual, the question is if this is a lack-of defc., or a pH lockout... I wonder now, because if the pH was that high, there'd be Fe defc. symptoms by now; Fe locks out fast by 7.0,... new pics do help plenty! .... Here's my thinking: the bottoms look like plain 'ol' N defc., hardly unusual at this stage (and given AN's mildness and pH lockout of N is nearly impossible)... the mids-to-uppers, a tougher call,...both Fe and N defc. can start off looking like that early on,... check it out--- see the big fan, center left? note the paler centers area, greener margins (this is N defc.)-->

....Now here's a pic of more atypical Fe defc. -->

--- similar, BUT then you consider where on the plant it's hitting, and the suspect nutrients mobility within the plant; Fe is poorly mobile, so will pretty much always start at the tops, or tops will look the worst.... N is the opposite, fully mobile within the plant, and as such it's the lowers to lowest that get tapped into first and worst; that said, this all just might be N defc.... Plants take up and store N whether they need it or not, it's automatic! but if she's been running on thin soup because of the mild AN nute's, she may not have much in reserve, forcing this early tapping,... and mobilizing nute's takes energy away from other stuff--like blooming, which might be why she's stalled out some-?..... So, w/o an actual pH reading, my best guess is the pH is likely okay after all, (no signs of acidity lockout; P usually shows first); try a little extra N (grow nutes part of Sensi) for a couple rounds, and I'd hit her with a PK booster as well, at whatever dilution you think she'll handle (it's the ratio of NPK that's important, not so much the conc.), and see if you can kick her off the lazy chair! Otherwise, she looks great Pete! Ask NW if she's a notoriously slow bloomer too,...

Brilliant post man...I know who I am going to tag when I run into problems!

Discretepete - Doesn't look much different today. Waira's excellent advice will get you fixed up