Cull? Need help ID'ing problem

[Padawan1972]

Zamnesia Critical Cheese

Born on 1-24-19

OF soil
No nutrients at this time. Only PH'd water. Was planning on starting on feeding this week with .5grama MC. "

Autocobs 24/0 30 inches from top of plant
Accurate 8 probe registering at 6.4

78-82f Rh 40-50%

@Waira or anyone else...I need your wisdom!
The only thing this reminds me of this is a slight case of Tobacco mosaic virus??
But, when I seen it on tomato plants...it was more pronounced
I have searched every leaf for parasites..etc
The deformed leaves seem to be "born" that way as they grow out . The spots start out as a faint white grayish spot, then progress to the golden/orange spots. you will see in the pictures. I was tempted to discard the leaves when I noticed more coming up with this condition.

 

[Padawan1972]

@TheMongol
This is my Battle plant . I waiting to see if I need to scrap it. If I do not need to throw it away, I will move the pictures to battle page.

 

[TheMongol]

Cheers 1972, i wish i could help....my first thought was it was looking like spots where water splashed on and light got focused through it and burned this points, but i'm sorry mate i have no clue, wait till Waira or @namvet25 check and will give adive.....

 

[Waira]

Pad', do you have other plants in this same bag of soil, and showing any weird symptoms like this? You already know what I think about OF soil,... a real gamble!
pH is good, env. stuff good, lights good,... not a fan of 24/0, my observations on this are some do OK, others don't,.. I think it can be too much, too long, over time and can lead to other less readily link-able problems... But I'm not 100% on that, just am becoming more and more suspect about it as I see more grows running this sched....
Symptoms aren't viral IMO; deformation may be an inherent fault with this plant, and so might be linked to the odd necrotic spotting ( seem's most mutations/growth aberrations often carry some sort of nutrient sensitivity, malfunction,...) ... that presents like Ca defc., but not the typical way so I'm not sure on that,.. what's your water source, pH/ppm? Any Ca-Mg going in? OF should be loaded enough, but given their spotty quality I don't discount bad batches at all,...
.... how's her vigor? Might be you just have to ride her out and see if this corrects, starts and halts after a certain age, or keeps progressing,... I can't pin this down to anything specific so far,.... You can try some foliar sprays with very mild nutes + Ca-Mg and see if things slow or halt; this is the fastest way into the plant, and bypasses the roots... you'll need a wetting agent to do this right; I like Coco-Wet the best! Spray tops and bottoms of leaves (more stomata there vs. topside), away from direct light until dry,... I would also recommend a Si and micronute supplement, humic-fulvic, and inoculants....

 

[Padawan1972]

Pad', do you have other plants in this same bag of soil, and showing any weird symptoms like this? You already know what I think about OF soil,... a real gamble!
pH is good, env. stuff good, lights good,... not a fan of 24/0, my observations on this are some do OK, others don't,.. I think it can be too much, too long, over time and can lead to other less readily link-able problems... But I'm not 100% on that, just am becoming more and more suspect about it as I see more grows running this sched....
Symptoms aren't viral IMO; deformation may be an inherent fault with this plant, and so might be linked to the odd necrotic spotting ( seem's most mutations/growth aberrations often carry some sort of nutrient sensitivity, malfunction,...) ... that presents like Ca defc., but not the typical way so I'm not sure on that,.. what's your water source, pH/ppm? Any Ca-Mg going in? OF should be loaded enough, but given their spotty quality I don't discount bad batches at all,...
.... how's her vigor? Might be you just have to ride her out and see if this corrects, starts and halts after a certain age, or keeps progressing,... I can't pin this down to anything specific so far,.... You can try some foliar sprays with very mild nutes + Ca-Mg and see if things slow or halt; this is the fastest way into the plant, and bypasses the roots... you'll need a wetting agent to do this right; I like Coco-Wet the best! Spray tops and bottoms of leaves (more stomata there vs. topside), away from direct light until dry,... I would also recommend a Si and micronute supplement, humic-fulvic, and inoculants....

Thanks for reading and recommendations. I have two others in battles in the same OF bag, that are not showing any signs of this. Her vigor is average a best. The new leaves seem at this time not to be showing any signs. I use tap water, It runs around 8.2ph and PPM if I remember 600. I will start nutes at next watering , including cal-mag. Iam going to side with your "inherent fault" of the plant and let her be . I will consider changing up my lighting schedule also.

Once again....you the MAN!!

 

[Waira]

delays, delays,.. pardon mate!
....sooo wait a minute here, your water is 8.2pH and 600ppm??! -- I need you to confirm that, coz if that's right, then either the TDS meter is off or that water is going to TARFU this whole next crop, 600ppm is beyond hard, it's all but toxic... Such a load of minerals will screw with uptake of other nutes, force pH up, cause osmotic balance issues in the root zone,....

 

[Daxxor]

I'm new, but I got to agree there, my water straight out of the tap is a 7.0 and TDS of 80, but I know I have good spring water here that my well is tapped into. a TDS of 600 is 200 over what the EPA says is safe to drink if memory serves me right.