New Grower Do I need a grow tent? How many plants in my space?

When I started out I wanted to be all engineer like and stuff.. Then after weeks and weeks of trial and error. (And even more error) I finally bought a tent. If you are in a apartment I think you might want to stick with strains that don't stink much in the first place. Low Ryder 2 and Short_stuff Auto #1 comes to mind. And with that, let me suggest a tent.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Jardin...1376&sr=8-6&keywords=secret+jardin+grow+tents

This tent is meant for a single mother plant or to be used as a propagator. I guess nobody told them about small auto flowers. But the point of this, you could effectively hide it under a fern stand table or something similar with a neat table cover and you couldn't see the dang thing even though it's sitting in the middle of the friggen room..

Infact, look at the package deal.. A 2 foot t5 and a Acu Rite Indoor Humidity Monitor temp guage thingy. A 2 foot light would give this tent 100% light coverage and thats a huge advantage.
 
Welcome to AFN, you will find that this site has people who grow in almost every way around. Some things are a must, air circulation, lights, temp & humidty control, ph control just to mention a few. I have had some success with 4ft t5's and a 135w led in a 5'X3'X2.5' tent. For $300 you can get a 240w blackstar led, mine will be in my tent for my next grow. A bathroom exhaust fan vented outside the grow space may help and some reflective material on the walls within the grow space. I use a carbon filter so I can't say about ONA. Smell will cause problems not only with law and order but the help yourself people who will rip you off. Mistakes you make in the beginning will be with you for the whole grow. Good luck and welcome.
 
i only ever used the Ona Gel none of those others ...It will in fact not control FREAM CARAMEL magic dragons or even Dr Feelgood ..That shit barely kept BERRY RYDER a blueberry stelrain under control ....
Nothing is as trusty as a carbon Filter as Any PROFESSIONAL grower will recommend ....it could work but I say it's throwing money in the trash ..
and I haven't used those blocks ...i do think it's useable like in the living room to help out .....
To me that gel dehydrating releasing toxins into the buds ur about to smoke doesn't fit right in my tastebuds
Not to mention the smell hitting ur face from that is disgusting and felt it burned my eyes ...
It didn't even cover cigarette like I assumed it would ...
Maybe I got a bad batch ...not sure

I do have to also say U HAVE big ole balls growing in apt .my closest neighbor​
 
swampman, in fairness and full disclosure I do NOW use 6" carbon scrubbers in both tents on top of the ONA ;) I don't think ONA by itself would be enough for larger size tents (at least for the sizes I have tried, they make it in gallon sizes and bigger I believe;) but I do firmly believe it could hold it's own in small enclosures if you didn't want to use a scrubber for some reason. I simply say that from growing some big stinky buds in there with that exact setup. No one is disputing the effectiveness of carbon scrubbers, they work amazing with my tents, but not even a 6" carbon scrubber with a 400 CFM fan alone can control the smell of my big tent sometimes. It's not that it floods the house with cannabis, but I don't want to go into my laundry room and smell strong weed (as good as it smells.) Also consider power outages, tripping breakers, the possibility of having dirty power lines, etc. I've had a few power outages so far and when those scrubbers and fans stop working, it turns into strong odors very quickly. So I take the extra step. Everyone's situation is different, but his situation is an apartment. As you say, it's a BALLSY move. I personally wouldn't do more than 1 or 2 small plants if it were me personally. I had 3 photos and 1 auto in a tent and that's all at one point in time, and a few minutes with the tent flap open while working on some stuff caused my ENTIRE HOUSE, upstairs and down, to reek like pot. Not smoked pot, GROWING pot. Amendment64, that's something you need to consider when you start planting your buds.

Also, ONA is non-toxic. There are no toxins being released into the air. It works by absorbing the VOC's of organic and inorganic molecules. They have a product sheet on their website with loads of information about it. You should give it a look so I can rest peacefully knowing you at least have the proper information at hand :)

Is ONA cost effective? $20 per month, looking at at least $40-60 for the odor control in a smaller tent if you're doing autos. A 6" carbon scrubber is about $60 on amazon.com, not including the cost of a 400+ CFM fan. You can get a 4" carbon scrubber + 190 CFM 4" centrigual fan for about $110 online. Or you can get creative and get combinations of fans. For a small tent, a 4" carbon scrubber should be more than effective. I have a 6" carbon scrubber on my small tent now too and I probably wouldn't need the ONA, but I can $20/month = peace of mind and a good nights sleep for me, so it's worth it for this guy. Depends a lot on your budget. You need to factor airflow into your budget already, so you could get a carbon scrubber and fan combo and have your smell and exhaust covered. You could try passive air or get a cheap inline can with a CFM rated lower than your exhaust fan for under $30 and you'd have your smell control pretty well covered, air intake and exhaust covered, and you would create negative air pressure, which (if using a tent) would suck in the walls a little bit, pulling more air through the exhaust port (to or from the scrubber, depending on your setup.) This creates suction inside the tent, so the smells and odors floating through the air are less likely to escape through other exits and more likely to go where you want them to go. I would say if you're going to be growing more than 1 grow, get yourself a scrubber for sure if it's feasible to do so with your wallet and your apartment. If you have the cash, get BOTH. There is no folly in taking an extra step to make sure you are covered.

Something to consider with carbon scrubbers is the CFM rated fan that it takes to push or pull the air into it. 400 CFM is noticeably loud. I have two 400 CFM's in my basement and there's a noticeable whir from two rooms away at the top of basement stairs. Keep into consideration the extra noise fans could create in your apartment. Wouldn't take long to piece together the smell of pot and the sound of whirring fans what was going on in there. Nobody vacuums their apartment 18 hours a day ;) haha!

Something to bear in mind as well, and you'll be able to tell us this more than anyone as you live there, but it's been in my past experiences of working flooring installation, most apartments are designed to mirror each other for maximum space efficiency. Unless your closet faces an exterior wall, you may be VERY close in proximity to someone elses closet or your hallway. Again, not sure if your setup, but consider that if yours is similar. Again, there is very little insulation on those interior walls compared to the exterior walls.
 
I hear u bro I just didn't see it being that useful.but u also said alot of quality points ...
I am sure I have a 500cfm fan and yeah its noisy but not as bad as I've heard before ...there was times as u say as well near harvest it got really bad even with that and I went with some ONA that I had left ...i bought the a gallon bucket but smelling that shit in the tent wasn't good for Swamp ...not to mention like I stated my eyes would burn nut I have very snssitive eyes. ...
When I first joined I was really looking for the cheapest ways possibly and I got like 3 buckets at a gallon for like 35$ almost 40$ with taxes ....i asked the guys what's the best way and I had used like 10 red solo cups full in every space possible ....it worked somewhat don't get me wrong but come close to harvest time I could smell the REAK outside ...my closet neighbor is about 25 yards away and there's been time I watch them.look towards me and sniff the air like ...Humm I can smell it....
I haven't had problems with any smell with a filter besides like u say the opening and closing for the ladies cuze I am a bath tub feeder..
I don't want to scre of new friend off but about 4 months ago I had a friend of a friend kinda go get fully inspected and he had a tiny plant growing for personal use well luckily they just removed bin from the property and nothing official was caused to him I guess him being disabled helped because he was wheelchair bound with Rheumatoid arthritic and bone cancer ...luoily the dude that owned the APT building had some compassion for him ...His neighbor said it constantly smelled pot...
I wish I was anywhere near the Amnedmant 64 fellas but I still gotta be secret ...
I would hate to see anything bad happen to anyone and not trying to offend anyone ...
 
My smell control is a small (240cfm) 6in can fan into a carbon filter rated for 400 cfm and a small (70 cfm) bathroom exhaust fan into the dryer vent. This set up has kept my house from smelling and the bathroom exhaust fan has controled the little that gets out of the tent. Even if you are only growing a few plants if you have scales the law will say you are a dealer. One asshole can change your life. Don't risk more than you can afford to give up. Check Gothom hydro they have some good deals on fan/filter combos. Good luck.
 
If uour gonna do it, do it right!! Get a tent and filter. It will save u with a bunch of headaches. Get a tent through it in a corner put a blanket on it vent it out a window boom no worries...


alot of people grow without a tent and there's nothing rong about it, if it's not in your budget and you have a perfectly good closet doing nothing ? .....good vibes good vibes .....
 
I agree! I've grown alot of nice plants in closets.Witht the size you mentioned you could do 3-4 plants with those 3 gallon pots depending on spacing. Ventilation is a must though-you got to have some moving air in there besides just a fan for circulation.you want to exhaust the old air while bringing new air in and a filter for the smell is a must also.
 
If you start without a tent you will want for a tent.
If you start in a tent you'll want for a hard space.

So know that whatever you choose if you dig this hobby and do well you can change it up next grow or the next grow or the next grow,

Happy Grows :smokebuds:
 
Hey Amendment64, welcome to AFN! :smokebuds:

Lots of good advice here. From the "For What It's Worth" department, here are my two pennies: If you need to keep everything covert and are unable to put the necessary holes into walls, ceilings, floors, or doors for ventilation, then your only option is a tent within your closet with an inline fan and a carbon filter. As others have mentioned, your plants WILL smell. It's not a question of if, or really even a question of when - they WILL stink. I've had seedlings 10 days old that smelled like a skunk's arsehole. A tent with a carbon filter will be a completely self-contained unit within your closet. I would strongly recommend against waiting until the smell becomes a problem to deal with it. Plus, you will become acclimated to whatever smells your plants are putting off and may not notice when that "stank" threshold is crossed, while others in your apartment building may have been smelling it for weeks. If you've ever smelled pot growing and knew that what you were smelling was pot that was growing, it's not a smell you forget. One tiny whiff can put a neighbor or landlord on point to what's going on as soon as they deduce that no skunks have entered your apartment building. Even though there's no shared ventilation with other apartments, if that smell is in your apartment, all it will take is you walking out of your apartment door to put whatever smells are in your apartment into the common area.
 
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