Droopy+Claws after worm tea

[Bum]

Sorry for being unable to get pics, I can get later if you think its needed. Ill try describe the best I can.

I fed worm tea last night.
10l water
2cups biobizz worm humus
2tbsp molasses
Bubbled 24h

4 plants got about 1l each. They all in Light Mix but 1 in potting soil.

They are all droopy more or less and two of them have few claws. Could it be nitrogen toxicity? Could the bacteria eaten everything and giving deficiencies?

 

[A-Train]

I'm not an organic man but from what I have seen the claw is feeds being a little hot. I know the tea guys use them to fert their soil so maybe it was a little too much for them to handle.

@Eyes on Fire do you have any experience with this?

 

[angular ocelot]

just a thought but could it be phosphorous deficiency?
i've stopped using any nutes except for worm castings and leachate (gonna try tea as soon as i can be arsed to buy an air pump) and some of my plants seem to do this. they also seem to have a bit of a bluish cast to the leaves. phosphorous deficiency was one of the things i looked into but to be honest i don't really know.

 

[Joe383]

Could be nitrogen toxic but its hard to say with out a pic. Are the leafs also a dark green color like pine needles? Also a lot of times the leaf tips like the last 1/2" or so were the tips curl will be a little glossy too and a darker green then the rest of the leaf.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

well yes and no. pics are helpful but a simple clawing is exactly that clawing. could be from a few things from a heavy soil thats now a touch hotter. but is that correct at 10L which is about 2.5 gallons and you used 2 cups of biobizz AND castings?at that rate id say its too much biobizz.since casting wont tend to claw unless you make it super hot and feed to an already heavily fed soil. so im gonna say its bio bizz and me personally depending how you water which you shouldnt water to run off much. but imo id wash a cpl cups of plain water through it. cal mag if needed i suppose but thats all id do. but all in all its either gonna melllow out in a day or so or just give it a light rinse. since watering especially hith a hotter feed.tea what have ya can claw and flip em out AND if the temps of the water are also cool too. so there is all kinds of things that can freak out a simple organics grow n claw em a bit.

 

[Waira]

EoF, thanks for chiming in brudda!

Bum-- yes please, pics if you can! Unless you've added a previous source of N in there, what you've put in with this tea very likely isn't N-tox happening,... other things can cause similar symptoms-- more of a bowing downward vs. at-tip clawing-- so that's why the pics will be needed for better diagnostics,...Drooping leaves could be overwatering, which can do some odd things to leaves as well--->

... saturated soil over several hours starts to smother the plants roots, O2 deprived, stunting/killing them,...

>> Naw, the soil herd won't deplete the nutes like that, in fact, many help buffer their release and conversion into absorbable forms, particularly N.... only nitrate (NO3--) and ammonium (NH4+) are taken up by the plant,... in fact, the sugar from the molasses will help facilitate this ...

 

[Bum]

@Eyes on Fire
No i put the BioBizz worm humus in a sock and in to the bubbles for 24h along with 2tbsp of molasses in ~10l water. Thats all they were given and theyre in Light Mix soil, got fed BioBizz grow every 2nd or 3rd watering before this. Perhaps i shouldnt have called it a worm tea. I read about a guy who did it so figured i try it to.

@Waira
They sort of looked like in the second picture. Not THAT droopy but bit less and with a occasional claw.

I will get you guys pics tonight sorry, I thought i would get notifications on activity in my topic..

Oh and theyre in 2gal airpots

 

[Bum]

@Eyes on Fire @Waira @Joe383 @A-Train

Heres the pics.
The two in airpots got 0.5l tap water like 12h ago and they are looking a bit better now, not as droopy now. Sorry for the poor quality with phone flash.. :/

 

[Waira]

... Bum, before the EWC tea, were they very dry, or did they get pretty saturated when you fed them? They look well on their way to recovery, so the drooping I can inly assume was from things getting overly wet in there...this smothers the roots, starving them of O2,... I do see a little suspect N-tox' clawing (strongly curved down near tips), which is kinda odd, considering how mild Biobizz is... did the clawing happen at the same time, or was it there before? I asked about them being too dry before because when the soil loses that much moisture, if there's lots of nutrients in there, the relative conc. of them spikes (less water, less dilute) and can cause pH shifts too, temporary shock to the plant,... Air pots can be a pain to water evenly sometimes! ..a strong dry-off can make the soil resistant to moisture uptake, creating small pockets of dry soil, which is bad news, and those opening on the side can channel water out instead of down! ... I recommend getting a wetting agent product, which will help the water penetrate more evenly,.. it's also critical for any sort of foliar spraying, for nute's, treatments or pests,... do you heft the pots to test for overall moisture content? A good trick to learn-- try hefting them when well watered, to calibrate yourself, and do it again when they're ready for a watering, so you can get a feel for things,... Otherwise they look good, mate ... you're feeding full bloom nutes now, right?

 

[Bum]

@Waira

They got a good bit of runoff from 1L ewc.

I had some problems getting the watering dialed in yeah, seems like I still do, lol. Just I feel like the pots are always light, can they really drink that much that I have to water daily or day after?

Theyre not on flower nutes yet, perhaps that explains the clawing, giving grow nutes for to long? Should I give them a flush let them dry up a bit and then start full bloom nutes? Or should I flush them with a bloom solution?