Extraction E-Liquid Tincture

[Captain Howdy]

It would work yeah, not sure about a gravy warmer (how hot do they get?) but it'd definitely work in a double boiler (in a glass bowl on top of a simmering pot of water).

The only problem using straight VG is it's quite a bit thicker so I imagine it'd end up ruining your pen much quicker than they would usually die. Hence mixing it with PG. Still, worth experimenting with. No reason why it wouldn't work


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[pop22]

I think I've read on the Skunkpharm site that hash and concentrate won't just blend into VG or even olive oil etc, unless it is blended with a homogenizer ( a special blender )

Everyone interested in e-liquid should read this, this is info from professionals: http://skunkpharmresearch.com/game-changer-emulsifying-vegetable-glycerin-and-bho-for-e-juice/

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I'm going through a bit of a concentrate faze atm and I'm planning on making some Propylene Glycol (food grade) tincture. This is the stuff used in many E-cig liquids so the theory is you could make a tincture by infusing your concentrate of choice (BHO/QWISO/and so on), add a little of your favourite flavoured e-liquid and then simply fill the pen and vape away.

I've also read using vegetable glycerin mixed with the propylene (30:70) works well but it separates after time so you need to shake the pen before vaping. On the plus side it sweetens the vape and produces a thicker cloud.

Just to note, though Propylene Glycol and Vegetable Glycerin are used in many things, vaping them may eventually turn out to be hazardous to your health when inhaled so just tread carefully. Saying that though, it's certainly better for you than tobacco

I'll be running this is about a month from now so I'll pop back with some results once I'm done

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After all the reading I've done, my personal conclusion is to get a pen that will vape shatter, BHO etc, the thick gooy stuff. There are several pens that will do "dab" I may go that way after I get a decent home unit. Or for something to carry a MFLB would be simpler. just a thought.

 

[DrBagseed]

So PG dissolves thc etc? All you need to do is make some BHO/hash oil and mix it with some PG, add to your E-cig? I might try this as I've got a bottle of PG, don't have an E-cig though but they're cheap enough and I've been wanting one.

 

[MrMcbud]

to post a quick update to this.
I found the bho/pg mix failed dismally,tasted acrid and seperated as it cooled,glycerine tincture is the answer.
I know,im currently vaping some.
Running an MVP2.0 and a protank 2,although i do plan on adding a rebuild able dripper atomizer for testing on that

Start with 20g of finely ground trim,decarb at 180,close to 190 for a short period(in a dehydrator)
Then add 1x 100ml bottle of BP glycerine to your crock pot,and let simmer on low heat overnight.
(BP/USP glycerine,by my research,most USP/BP glycerine is veg/naturally sourced,food grade does NOT conform to the same high standards as BP/USP)
remove from heat,strain and deep freeze to -5'c overnight.
remove from freezer,strain once more and fill your tank.
BY no means a bong hit,but a very nice subsistence smoke for during the day.
Keeps me nice and chilled without making me lazy or gluing me to my office chair...plus,im vaping it at my desk,nobody any the wiser.
i would like to work on further filtering via a pressure vessel,as the thick PG juice does tend to destroy atomizers in a matter of days

 

[pop22]

So PG dissolves thc etc? All you need to do is make some BHO/hash oil and mix it with some PG, add to your E-cig? I might try this as I've got a bottle of PG, don't have an E-cig though but they're cheap enough and I've been wanting one.

No it does not dissolve the thc and just mixing it does not work. it will fall out of suspension unless its blended using a homogenizer.

 

[mwsmoker]

I'm with pop22 at least since per filled hash pens are illegal in my state still I use gentlemen's brand cartridges made specifically for bho that uses the same ego battery connection as my ecig tanks.

 

[MrMcbud]

Agreed again, however, my buddy is doing a bho run, then plans to winterise, heat with pg and cool.lets see what happens.
He is convinced it is the vg content of my first attempt that caused the seperation.


Ps:just had my first bong for the day...Northern Vision by Zambeza....wow the two have joined into an uber buzz...happiness

 

[Sunny747]

Last week I watched a few vids on this topic and did some reading. I enjoy vaping, I too like the banana flavor I was pretty dissappointed with the results of my canna-ejuice. I actually threw it out.

I decarbed 1 tbs of quality bud then added 2 tbs of VG to a glass vile. I heated the vile in a water bath for 3 hours at 160 degrees, shaking at times.

What I got was a product that vaped well, but tasted awful ( like chlorophyll) and did not have an effect at all. I'm not sure why.

After this I went out an bought an o-pen cartridge and attached to my vape. I like it well enough. I'm hoping we can get this dialed in so I can make my own

 

[MrMcbud]

okay,vg+bho=gunk
you can freeze,spin,boil,stir...it will not homogenize.
if u succeed,show me, i will gladly learn.
u want bho on an ecig,whip the tank off,add a blob of bho to coil and dab away
worst coil life,3 hours,best 2 days,lung infection,ongoing...im going back to glycerine
if u wanna get high,get a dab pen and all the bho u want.
you want medical benefits and are willing to vape all day(because its convenient,its also a ciggy alternative)glycerine is your answer.
vaping glycerine tincture,all day,in an average size tank equates to about 1/2 of a teaspoon(my tincture potency)
all i can say is i personally thank the man that gave me my first eciggy glycerine tincture,he made my day that much more pleasant.
Can i pinpoint my benefits,to an extent yes,but i can summarize it as a general improvement in well being.
i simply feel better

 

[Captain Howdy]

I have now tried this method with perfect results. I'm going to make another batch next week and I document the process here but thought I'd throw up the guide which I used in case anyone else wanted a blast.... I did this with PG btw... didn't bother trying with VG.

Sourced from http://www.easytoquit.org/e-cigarette-for-marijuana-use-part-1.html

Guide #1 - Using Dry herb

For the first method, you'll need herbal product (completely dried), propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin, a blender or food processor and a fine filter such as a muslin bag or a super fine coffee filter. These two types of filters will produce an odorless product. The more herbal particles left in the final liquid, the more it will smell when vaporized. Also, you want to make sure and get USP Food Grade propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin.

Now that you have all of your goodies together, it's time to begin macerating the herb. You're basically going to make an herbal smoothy with your herbs and PG or VG. Just don't add too much herb. You want to expose as much of the surface area of the herb as possible but you don't want to add so much herb that it becomes thick and gummy. You'll want the mixture to be not much thicker than your original base (PG or VG). This way, the most possible extraction of essential oils will occur. Blend the s**t out of it until you get super fine particles. After blending, let sit at least 6-10 days at room temperature. You should stir or shake the mixture if possible each day. Both PG and VG act like alcohols and will extract the organic compounds from the herb and hold it in solution.
[h=2]After waiting 6-10 days, filter your juice with your muslin bag or a super fine coffer filter. Dilute as needed if too strong. It can be warmed if needed to aid in filtering. Keep temperature below 110f.[/h]
And that's it. From there I filled an empty pen and vaped away with effects much better than I expected and zero odor.

There's always a way

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