first grow,problems with temp or to much water or led to low or.....?!!!

[mr.lahey]

Are they both topped mate? My old eyes can't quite tell looking on my phone screen!


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thanks buddy.
perfection at its best

just checked your journal,thats very nice buddy

topped biger one. smaller one was so dense so i fim her.

 

[mr.lahey]

You can mix them together. Put the Ca/Mg in first, then add the base nutes.

Hi HM looks like i have some problems.
start my feeding on 17.2 with micro + grow and cal mag,small amounts of water and 3/4 of streinght of nutes,before that last watering was on 8.2.
i use 5 gal pots.and this bending leafs down was before i started to feed them.
can you help me please,starting to freak out.
thanks.

 

[mr.lahey]

HI guys looks like i have some problems so i need some help from you.

im growing 2 DP night queens
5 gal pots and soil
200 w apollo6 led and its on 22' from plants
tomorrow will be 3 weeks old
last week(6 days ago) gave them micro+grow AN ph was 6.2
both are toped 6 days ago and got very nice with stress,they were growin 2cm(all most an inch a day),last 2 days they grow stoped,they grow maybe around 1cm(1/3 of inch)
lower leavs are geting yellow and new ones on the top look like claw.here are few pics of sick leavs and just few pics of plants

what have i done wrong? and can somebody help me please starting to panic

thanks

 

[Waira]

-- a side note: HM is out for a while,... and I merged the two threads, no need for both...
Firstly, calm down mate, there's nothing to get squirrely about going on here,... If you are new to all this, topping isn't a wise thing to do with auto's, until you have better grow skills dialed in; remember, they don't have much time in veg' before bloom kicks in, and growth slows way down, especially on Indica dom. strains like these... Topping sets them back some, and if improved yield is your goal here, this topping on plants not big and branchy enough yet won't improve this.... at 3 weeks, veg is pretty much over and they won't be stacking nodes up very much from here, hence the slow-down in part here,... fewer nodes, fewer buds! As you see, one topping didn't work anyway... don't get down on yourself mate, this is an advanced skill, and the plant has to be a good candidate for it matched with excellent grow skills during veg!
What soil brand is this? It's richness determines in part when and how much feeds they get,...

start my feeding on 17.2 with micro + grow and cal mag,small amounts of water and 3/4 of streinght of nutes,before that last watering was on 8.2.

>> too strong in concentration to start off with, hence the minor tip curling, likely from too much N, and the bit of tip burn-- all minor fortunately! ... am I reading this right, you last watered Feb. 8th? -it's been two weeks? This is why 5gal pots aren't the best choice until you know you can get plants big enough to really fill them out,... they take too long to dry out, and you can't feed regularly at milder dosages which tends to work better,... they can dry out unevenly too, wet bottoms, drier tops zone, so you end up guessing on water, using small amounts, and this can start creating dry patches... best way to tell is to heft the pots and get a feel for the weight when well watered and when dry enough to water again,...

>> so, pending what soil this is, diluting your nutes down more is needed regardless, how much depends on the soil brand and it's richness level,... if you can, get a soil pH probe, like the Accurate 8; avoid the cheapo skinny probes seen at garden ceters, etc., they are lousy for accuracy,...

 

[mr.lahey]

-- a side note: HM is out for a while,... and I merged the two threads, no need for both...
Firstly, calm down mate, there's nothing to get squirrely about going on here,... If you are new to all this, topping isn't a wise thing to do with auto's, until you have better grow skills dialed in; remember, they don't have much time in veg' before bloom kicks in, and growth slows way down, especially on Indica dom. strains like these... Topping sets them back some, and if improved yield is your goal here, this topping on plants not big and branchy enough yet won't improve this.... at 3 weeks, veg is pretty much over and they won't be stacking nodes up very much from here, hence the slow-down in part here,... fewer nodes, fewer buds! As you see, one topping didn't work anyway... don't get down on yourself mate, this is an advanced skill, and the plant has to be a good candidate for it matched with excellent grow skills during veg!
What soil brand is this? It's richness determines in part when and how much feeds they get,...

>> too strong in concentration to start off with, hence the minor tip curling, likely from too much N, and the bit of tip burn-- all minor fortunately! ... am I reading this right, you last watered Feb. 8th? -it's been two weeks? This is why 5gal pots aren't the best choice until you know you can get plants big enough to really fill them out,... they take too long to dry out, and you can't feed regularly at milder dosages which tends to work better,... they can dry out unevenly too, wet bottoms, drier tops zone, so you end up guessing on water, using small amounts, and this can start creating dry patches... best way to tell is to heft the pots and get a feel for the weight when well watered and when dry enough to water again,...

>> so, pending what soil this is, diluting your nutes down more is needed regardless, how much depends on the soil brand and it's richness level,... if you can, get a soil pH probe, like the Accurate 8; avoid the cheapo skinny probes seen at garden ceters, etc., they are lousy for accuracy,...

Hi Waira,sorry about two treads won't happend again and big thanks for reply...now i calm a bit when i got your reply...yea i was going for bigger yield(was growin photoperods ,and toping was = bigger yield ) but like you said it's not like that with autos,now im gona get smaller yield,learned now on the hard way.yes last water was on 8th of feb and fed on 17th,after that not a single drop of water,made mistake with big pots,as you said now i have dry top and wet lower part of pot,what im thinkin now to dry them completly so i get some kind of same humidity of soil...now i have no idea how much and when too water them couse they don't look thirsty and should be feeding them.what do you suggest?


klasman stackmedium is soil 12:14:24
ph 5,5-6,5


thanks,you made me clear a lot of stuff now and were i made mistakes,but still a bit down but i get up stronger and wiser and sorry for my bad english.

 

[mr.lahey]

just a little update
problem was as @Waira said in big pots and wet spots inside,thats why they didn't look thursty.
gave them just water first and 3 days later gave them smaller amount of nutes.
growing 2cm(almost an inch a day) and looking happy.
thanks @Waira

 

[Waira]

No worries mate, not a problem, it's just easier to have it all in one place!

...well, pot size is best determined by what the strain is known for in size, and your grow skills allowing it to get this big,... a bit of a guessing game, but if you get a monster going, a simple carefully done transplant will be just fine, it's all about NOT damaging the roots doing it! Also, consider using fabric pots, which will dry faster and more evenly than plastic ones,...
I'm not sure what the soil numbers are-? 12:14:24,...units of what kind of measurement? In any case, you can still feed them as you have done, just using smaller amount of water,.. the risk is, getting really uneven moisture areas in the pot,... you can dig down along the edge with a small spoon, to see how moisture changes with depth to say, middle of pot,.. then water more lightly along the top surface, all around to keep it even,.. you don't want dry patches forming, as this will keep roots from expanding into them! A basic moisture meter could be helpful for checking at depths too,...

 

[mr.lahey]

No worries mate, not a problem, it's just easier to have it all in one place!

...well, pot size is best determined by what the strain is known for in size, and your grow skills allowing it to get this big,... a bit of a guessing game, but if you get a monster going, a simple carefully done transplant will be just fine, it's all about NOT damaging the roots doing it! Also, consider using fabric pots, which will dry faster and more evenly than plastic ones,...
I'm not sure what the soil numbers are-? 12:14:24,...units of what kind of measurement? In any case, you can still feed them as you have done, just using smaller amount of water,.. the risk is, getting really uneven moisture areas in the pot,... you can dig down along the edge with a small spoon, to see how moisture changes with depth to say, middle of pot,.. then water more lightly along the top surface, all around to keep it even,.. you don't want dry patches forming, as this will keep roots from expanding into them! A basic moisture meter could be helpful for checking at depths too,...

I know what you mean mate.easier for everybody.

it's N-P-K ratio in soil.

yeap make sense,in fabric they can breathe in plastic no,like in plastic bag ..small things that maters a lot,which you learn from more expirienced grower
i will do as you say about watering and cheking moisture in pots,i ll try with spoon and try not to hurt the roots,couse im prety much clumsy and keep you info whats going on and ask if i have some problems.

thanks again mate.

 

[Waira]

, yes I know it's the NPK ratio, but these numbers would be more like what you'd see on a bottle of nutes and the guaranteed analysis %, see what I mean? Different International units being used for the soil is what's up there,... in any case, the soil has some built in nutes, so it may be why you got a little bit cooked earlier... but now, new growth looks fine, no more clawing or tip burn showing-?... so just keep the nutes where you're at now until she's bigger and can handle more,... you're welcome!

 

[mr.lahey]

, yes I know it's the NPK ratio, but these numbers would be more like what you'd see on a bottle of nutes and the guaranteed analysis %, see what I mean? Different International units being used for the soil is what's up there,... in any case, the soil has some built in nutes, so it may be why you got a little bit cooked earlier... but now, new growth looks fine, no more clawing or tip burn showing-?... so just keep the nutes where you're at now until she's bigger and can handle more,... you're welcome!

glad to make you smile

no more new clawings or burn tip,just old ones,giving the nutes as usual and all looks good,bised lower older leaves (which are turning yellow and dieng)
and now its spreading towards buds and small leavs.here are some pics.and its only on one plant.other one is ok.
hope you can help me again.