both exactly the same millwake black and yellow from amazon the first i thought was good til i dropped it in the water they dont like that the second the same meter didnt function right out of box it calibrated the first time and never would come close to calibrating again. idk i think the next one i get will be water proof at least been looking they can get spendy but i like good tools and thats the main one bro:smokebuds:ps thanks for your kind words for severly stunted plants they have made a decent comeback i am hoping they swell up nicely keep watching cuz the pics will be better lol and no telling what i might screw up next lmao:smokebuds::smokebuds::smokebuds:


:clap: tells me the canoe leaves are from my light being to close its on a mover so its not really hot but i have moved it up n ow how do i know is too close or to far away i can quite comfortably hold my hand at top of plant for the whole cyle of the light where is optimum for 1000 watt hps? i could hold my hand there before i move it up:smokebuds: