Old Reviews I am wondering about HID vs LED

Also if you check out my last grow you can see that I grew some monsters and I felt like I was limited in the space and those were done with 24/0 start to finish. My theory is that plants main function is to grow as big and as a healthy as they can, to do that they need to produce photosynthesis, so if they are producing photosynthesis all the time they are in fact growing ALL the time. That is why I am eager to give them the space they need. My 5 gallon buckets were completely filled with roots, so in a since they were root bound(in a 5 GALLON bucket) so I want to use bigger rezes, more light, more air to the roots and basically see how big I can get them.
 
If up-front cost is not a major factor, consider the GrowNorthern HS-1 or other very high efficiency LEDs. These only pull 75 watts, but perform like much higher wattage LEDs, with a number of extraordinary grow results reported here on AN. You could use 1 per 2 plants, pulling 37.5 watts/plant, and likely do very well (even without any sun). For the same amount and quality of light, you'd have to pull multiple that many watts with conventional LEDs or anything else. Considering your situation (limited power generation and storage capacity, plus high costs for what you do generate/store), HS-1 or other LEDs with extreme high efficiency might be the way to go. [Anyone known when there will be HS-1 or equivalent products for the US market?]
 
I have two people in the household so I have 6 and 6 but yes 3 and 3 per person, you are correct Ronin. How have you been btw? Also up front cost is not really a factor and I would definitely pay for the grow northern but that was my issue a year ago is that they weren't available here in the us. I am also considering making my own LED setup but I am torn. I don't think I will be able to pull it off with HID's no matter how hard I try. So I am going to go with LED's I just don't know which ones are the most energy efficient and have the highest lumen/wattage output. There are so many that say they are 1000W but the actual draw is 200 so I am trying to do as much research over the next couple of months and this is by far the best place to do it
 
I have two people in the household so I have 6 and 6 but yes 3 and 3 per person, you are correct Ronin. How have you been btw? Also up front cost is not really a factor and I would definitely pay for the grow northern but that was my issue a year ago is that they weren't available here in the us. I am also considering making my own LED setup but I am torn. I don't think I will be able to pull it off with HID's no matter how hard I try. So I am going to go with LED's I just don't know which ones are the most energy efficient and have the highest lumen/wattage output. There are so many that say they are 1000W but the actual draw is 200 so I am trying to do as much research over the next couple of months and this is by far the best place to do it
There are a few good ones out there or you can just make your own.. Making your own is pretty simple really..
 
Yeah I have got the basics down I think plus my stepdad who is going to be helping me with construction knows a lot about electrical stuff so building one I don't think should be that hard. What I am trying to find out is what sets the Grownorhterns apart from virtually everything else. So far I see that they use Phillips LEDs and on their site they have schematics of what LEDs are where so I have two questions, is there ANY way to get a grownorthern LED light shipped to the USA? Also what makes them so different or better than the others out there?
 
GN are very pricy but perform well, however one can always make a similar design for cheaper. I once wanted to enhance the hs1 led array and make my own version with more power, then i found cree cxbs are more efficent so i went that way.
But still you'll need a lot of watts, why not just do a few proper photoperiod trees that yield some kilos each?
 
GN lights diffuse the lights spectrum so there are no hot spots and beam angle can be chosen depending on diffuser used. I have noticed an improvement in plant health and trichrome production with thus system. The new lights come in 150, 250 and 400w versions. Considering HS1's are only 75w these should be something special and they are coming to Colorado soon.


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On the DP website somewhere in joes blog there is a greenhouse in Belgium that uses supplemental light and the sun...result on photos were unreal.(over 10lb Frisian dews anyone?)

Edit-hopefully someone with highspeed internet can find it easily!
 
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I think the supplemental lightning was used to prevent early flowering, not along with the sun. That would be useless in sunny days...on clowdy days however it would make the difference.
 
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