For a 19" tall cab I would hope they looked like that
serious, good work bayes. I'll be following, keep it up :thumbs:
Indoor Journal-White Widow (Ministry of Cannabis) First Grow
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For a 19" tall cab I would hope they looked like that
serious, good work bayes. I'll be following, keep it up :thumbs:
Trapper
Rocky Mountain...High
This is a totally uneducated guess, but it seems like not particularly powerful lights at the beginning, and some LSTing may have drawn on the veg. stage account a little heavily.
But as others have said, It looks super healthy and ready to put on some weight. Others may correct me but with the buds already at the stage they are...
Maybe start them on light bloom nutes now and help facilitate what they already seem to want to be doing anyway.
But as others have said, It looks super healthy and ready to put on some weight. Others may correct me but with the buds already at the stage they are...
Maybe start them on light bloom nutes now and help facilitate what they already seem to want to be doing anyway.
She looks fine my friend, a real go getter!!! Start feeding her bloom nutes and she will love it. Just remember the trio is some hot shit (grow big and tiger bloom) so 1/4 strength will do. I love your cab by the way, very clean and nice. Happy growing :Sharing One:
trio is some hot shit (grow big and tiger bloom) so 1/4 strength will do. I love your cab by the way, very clean and nice. Happy growing :Sharing One:
Thanks for the responses (and compliments on the cabinet)
My plants have only received three feedings, the first was on Day 20 (1 Tsp Grow Big), next was on Day 24 1/2tsp Grow big, 1/2 tsp big bloom, 1/2 tsp tiger bloom, third feeding was on Day 27 1tsp Tiger, 1/2 tsp Grow Big. Last watering was yesterday, it was rinse only.
This is a slightly modified (lighter/less) schedule that Full Duplex recommended.
As my earlier posts indicated, LST was done later than I had planned (a little scary when stems become more fibrous) but there didn't seem to be an opportunity to do it earlier as the plant was so bushy and had an even canopy.
Thanks for reading and your contributions.
T
My plants have only received three feedings, the first was on Day 20 (1 Tsp Grow Big), next was on Day 24 1/2tsp Grow big, 1/2 tsp big bloom, 1/2 tsp tiger bloom, third feeding was on Day 27 1tsp Tiger, 1/2 tsp Grow Big. Last watering was yesterday, it was rinse only.
This is a slightly modified (lighter/less)
schedule that Full Duplex recommended.As my earlier posts indicated, LST was done later than I had planned (a little scary when stems become more fibrous) but there didn't seem to be an opportunity to do it earlier as the plant was so bushy and had an even canopy.
Thanks for reading and your contributions.
T
HELP HELP Please!
Hi Folks-
Things went bad in a hurry. Plants were fine yesterday (the very lowest leaves (bottom 2-3 leaves) were yellow or faded green) when I did a rinse (no nutes) --I thought this minor discoloration was normal. I use ph drops. Water was tap but sat open for 48 hours. Ph'ed at around est. 7.2 Runoff was 6.25-6.5 est.
The yellow is spreading.
What do you think is happening?? What should I do?? Hard to believe its nitrogen deficiency ( OF/HF mix) Previous feedings immediately above this post.
Whatever is happening its happening quickly.
Please help---
Hi Folks-
Things went bad in a hurry. Plants were fine yesterday (the very lowest leaves (bottom 2-3 leaves) were yellow or faded green) when I did a rinse (no nutes) --I thought this minor discoloration was normal. I use ph drops. Water was tap but sat open for 48 hours. Ph'ed at around est. 7.2 Runoff was 6.25-6.5 est.
The yellow is spreading.
What do you think is happening?? What should I do?? Hard to believe its nitrogen deficiency (
OF/HF mix) Previous feedings immediately above this post.Whatever is happening its happening quickly.
Please help---
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Hi Folks-
Things went bad in a hurry. Plants were fine yesterday (the very lowest leaves (bottom 2-3 leaves) were yellow or faded green) when I did a rinse (no nutes) --I thought this minor discoloration was normal. I use ph drops. Water was tap but sat open for 48 hours. Ph'ed at around est. 7.2 Runoff was 6.25-6.5 est.
The yellow is spreading.
What do you think is happening?? What should I do?? Hard to believe its nitrogen deficiency (
Whatever is happening its happening quickly.
Please help---
I would guess cal-mag deficiency - very common with fox farm.
You have any cal-mag additives?
The buds are needing some more juice, you'll be fine.
Maybe someone else can chime in...
Good morning everyone-
While awaiting a response here, I also posted on the AFN 24 hour sub forum. What a GREAT resource!
Waira responded:
Hi Bayes- had a look at your thread,...good soil blend, good nute's (but I don't think they're that hot,...compared to something like the Sea Grow line,..), pH is great.... to my eye, that even, overall yellowing, right down to the veins, w/o spotting or brown tips/margins, on lower fans, is classic N defc.,... she must be building up buds big time, to suddenly start sucking up the fans like that! Easy fix though, give her a round of grow fert's, start at 1/2 strength, and see how she responds... it'll take a couple days, but it should at least halt the yellowing... don't worry about grow nutes once or twice at this stage, it won't cause any funny business! Also, some yellowing is normal, but it's way to early in budding for them to be getting tapped this hard....
I'm going to follow his advice.
However, despite my last ph runoff results (drops), I suspect the soil ph is lower than I thought. I'm beginning to think that soil runoff testing can be all over the map depending on how the plant is watered (fast vs slow) and the type of pot (holes only on the bottom versus holes going up the sides.) My thinking here is that if you don't get enough runoff, like 20% or so, and if your pot has holes up the side, and you don't take your time watering, you (me) may not be getting very accurate readings. This is probably particularly true if one is relying on subjective color assessment (drops).
In the future starting today, I'm going to pay much more attention to the water/nutrient ph and less on runoff ph.
This AM I mixed up a gallon with 1tsp Grow Big with 1/2 tsp Tiger Bloom and took a ph measurement. Tap water was a little north of 7, after nutes it dropped to about 5.5-6.0. The magnitude of the drop was very surprising. I then added 1/4tsp of baking soda to bring it back up to about 6.5. I'm going to let it sit for a few hours, test again, then feed.
Not that I have an informed opinion, but my guess is that Waira is right. I think the rinse washed out the already depleted nute levels caused by early, aggressive bud formation.
There MAY BE a lesson here. Feeding schedules are important but they should not be followed slavishly. They are guidelines ONLY and if your plants are running way ahead (or behind) of typical/expected growth patterns, just my opinion, but it may be wiser to feed based on the plant's condition and stage of development as opposed to a generalized feeding schedule.
And yes, she is building big buds, big time.
Thanks for visting. Any and all comments are greatly appreciated, as always.
T.
While awaiting a response here, I also posted on the AFN 24 hour sub forum. What a GREAT resource!
Waira responded:
Hi Bayes- had a look at your thread,...good soil blend, good nute's (but I don't think they're that hot,...compared to something like the Sea Grow line,..), pH is great.... to my eye, that even, overall yellowing, right down to the veins, w/o spotting or brown tips/margins, on lower fans, is classic N defc.,... she must be building up buds big time, to suddenly start sucking up the fans like that! Easy fix though, give her a round of grow fert's, start at 1/2 strength, and see how she responds... it'll take a couple days, but it should at least halt the yellowing... don't worry about grow nutes once or twice at this stage, it won't cause any funny business! Also, some yellowing is normal, but it's way to early in budding for them to be getting tapped this hard....
I'm going to follow his advice.
However, despite my last ph runoff results (drops), I suspect the soil ph is lower than I thought. I'm beginning to think that soil runoff testing can be all over the map depending on how the plant is watered (fast vs slow) and the type of pot (holes only on the bottom versus holes going up the sides.) My thinking here is that if you don't get enough runoff, like 20% or so, and if your pot has holes up the side, and you don't take your time watering, you (me) may not be getting very accurate readings. This is probably particularly true if one is relying on subjective color assessment (drops).
In the future starting today, I'm going to pay much more attention to the water/nutrient ph and less on runoff ph.
This AM I mixed up a gallon with 1tsp Grow Big with 1/2 tsp Tiger Bloom and took a ph measurement. Tap water was a little north of 7, after nutes it dropped to about 5.5-6.0. The magnitude of the drop was very surprising. I then added 1/4tsp of baking soda to bring it back up to about 6.5. I'm going to let it sit for a few hours, test again, then feed.
Not that I have an informed opinion, but my guess is that Waira is right. I think the rinse washed out the already depleted nute levels caused by early, aggressive bud formation.
There MAY BE a lesson here. Feeding schedules are important but they should not be followed slavishly. They are guidelines ONLY and if your plants are running way ahead (or behind) of typical/expected growth patterns, just my opinion, but it may be wiser to feed based on the plant's condition and stage of development as opposed to a generalized feeding schedule.
And yes, she is building big buds, big time.
Thanks for visting. Any and all comments are greatly appreciated, as always.
T.
virginia gent
hanna and toby
Sorry I didn't get back sooner, harvest and new grow. I have started using sledgehammer between veg and bloom, about week five. Seems that after three or four feedings with big grow my soil locks out even when I am careful with the ph. Cal/mag between each feeding of trio and use ph up/ph down not baking soda or lime, may not be organic but easy to control (imo). Stop using grow big and stick with tiger and big bloom with cal/mag.
trio and use ph up/ph down not baking soda or lime, may not be organic but easy to control (imo). Stop using grow big and stick with tiger and big bloom with cal/mag.Good evening--
Well, there is good news and bad news.
The good news is that the plant continues its rapid bud development/maturation.
Although this is a two plant grow, I've only included pictures of one; the other is about three days behind and these pictures did not turn out well.
The bad news is the yellowing of the leaves continues even after the 1 tsp Grow Big and 1/2 tsp of Tiger Bloom.
Waira thought it was nitrogen deficiency (look back a few posts please) and although I did not expect the yellowing leaves to turn green all of a sudden, I did not expect the yellowing of previously unaffected leaves. No bugs, no brown tips, no spots other than the one visible in the picture Salt, buildup? I dunno, I rinsed with proper ph five/six days ago. Cal/mag issues? It really doesn't look like any of the images I've seen on this forum. Could it still be nitrogen deficiency?? I dunno.
Maybe Waira is right. I certainly thought so. It made sense since the problem arose a few days ago immediately after I did the rinse. But after feeding I expected improvement and got the opposite. Now I'm in a quandry. Do I assume the plant is still N deficient? I dunno. Don't want to flush if I don't have to. Maybe another good rinse?
Or am I just being overly concerned w/o good reason?
Left to my own, i.e., no advice from you good folks, I will probably feed 2 tspns of Tiger Bloom and 1/2 Tsp of Grow Big.
What do you think?
Here is My Gal Pal at 35 Days.
(BTW I have a Hanna Combo meter and some proper ph Up/Down on order but they will not arrive until after the next watering/feeding.)
Well, there is good news and bad news.
The good news is that the plant continues its rapid bud development/maturation.
Although this is a two plant grow, I've only included pictures of one; the other is about three days behind and these pictures did not turn out well.
The bad news is the yellowing of the leaves continues even after the 1 tsp Grow Big and 1/2 tsp of Tiger Bloom.
Waira thought it was nitrogen deficiency (look back a few posts please) and although I did not expect the yellowing leaves to turn green all of a sudden, I did not expect the yellowing of previously unaffected leaves. No bugs, no brown tips, no spots other than the one visible in the picture Salt, buildup? I dunno, I rinsed with proper ph five/six days ago. Cal/mag issues? It really doesn't look like any of the images I've seen on this forum. Could it still be nitrogen deficiency?? I dunno.
Maybe Waira is right. I certainly thought so. It made sense since the problem arose a few days ago immediately after I did the rinse. But after feeding I expected improvement and got the opposite. Now I'm in a quandry. Do I assume the plant is still N deficient? I dunno. Don't want to flush if I don't have to. Maybe another good rinse?
Or am I just being overly concerned w/o good reason?
Left to my own, i.e., no advice from you good folks, I will probably feed 2 tspns of Tiger Bloom and 1/2 Tsp of Grow Big.
What do you think?
Here is My Gal Pal at 35 Days.
(BTW I have a Hanna Combo meter and some proper ph Up/Down on order but they will not arrive until after the next watering/feeding.)
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virginia gent
hanna and toby
Hello. Once the leaves turn yellow you can remove them, they won't come back. The plant took everything from those leaves and wants more. Give only bloom nutes not grow big, 10ml tiger bloom and 20ml big bloom per gallon in ph 6.5 areated water, 1000-1500ml each plant. The plants are in bloom and don't need as much N, try and give them everything they want for bud development.
