Live Stoner Chat Killing your Auto at harvest....

[oldcoot]

A little off course here but i just chopped 2 auto's and the one at about a week before chop started sprouting out 9 new bud tops.
Both plants were showing amber .
Both were done in a week..
Never saw anything like it.
Discussed with waira in the infirmary thread.( whats going on ).
He hadnt seen it before either .
In any case, both down now.
Hmmm. Interesting

 

[cryptolab]

A little off course here but i just chopped 2 auto's and the one at about
a week before chop started sprouting out 9 new bud tops.
Both plants were showing amber .
Both were done in a week..
Never saw anything like it.
Discussed with waira in the infirmary thread.( whats going on ).
He hadnt seen it before either .
In any case, both down now.
Hmmm. Interesting

Hi Oldcoot,

Thanks very much for posting.
It's warmly appreciated.

Seriously, you could be sitting on a gold mine.
(or at least, a steady income for many years)

Did you collect any seeds ?
Is it too late to 'attempt' to clone ?
Can you attempt to put the stump into reveg
(there are many people saying they've successfully revegged autos - however controversial)

What seeds ?
What cross were these seeds ?
eg: Ruderalis X Northern Lights ?
or say, LowRider2 X Lemon Skunk etc.

Did you do anything _different_ with this plant (or these plants)
Did you add florigen to the feed ?
(Florigen is a flowering hormone:
see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florigen )

Thanks again.
Looking forward to your reply

cryptolab

 

[oldcoot]

hello, no that's a first for me. but I'm still a rookie at growing.
yeah the plant was ready to harvest then branches that were smaller and down in the canopy all of a sudden shot up with new bud sites.
I chopped everything as I needed the room, I just threw the new buds in with the trim.
I thought about partial harvest but as I said.time to go.
no seeds, it was a mephisto sour blue. 2 of them.
ive only been growing for a few years but never saw that before.
alas I didn't see this thread till after I chopped both plants.
they were 2 different pheno's though. I defoled this one pretty hard because it was a big leafed bitch. the other I didn't touch much at all till the end.
near the end they did develop a slight P and FE def.
this was a dwc grow with led's and a simple hydro formula.
I discussed this with pics in the " whats going on here " thread in the infirmary thread.
that's all I can tell you except they were not foxtail buds,at least not what I know,which isn't much.
hope that helps your search.

 

[oldcoot]

also I counted 9 new sites when I chopped her.ha

 

[cryptolab]

no seeds, it was a mephisto sour blue. 2 of them.

Hi Oldcoot,

Where did you buy your seeds from ?
I can't help wondering whether, other seeds, of the same type,
and from the same source, might behave in the same way.

Please let me know, .. and thanks for your help

cryptolab

 

[cryptolab]

also I counted 9 new sites when I chopped her.ha

shame you couldn't let that plant continue to flower.
(a) the harvest would be significantly bigger
(b) you could have self-pollinated one or two of the buds
and collected feminized seeds, each a clone of the mother.

Please keep me in mind, if you decide to grow these seeds again.
I'd be interested in following your progress.

best wishes

cryptolab

 

[Arthur]

With all the other stuff aside... selfing is not cloning. They are two entirely different actions, providing entirely different results.

 

[oldcoot]

I got the seeds from a friend.
I do still see them for sale at different places.
I doubt i'll grow it again.
It was weird though.
Good luck in your hunt.

 

[cryptolab]

With all the other stuff aside... selfing is not cloning. They are two entirely different actions, providing entirely different results.

Hi Arthur,

I'm pleased you choose to respond.
Perhaps you'll share with us your in-depth knowledge of genetics.

I'm saying there is no genetic difference between:
(1) the mother plant,
(2) a clone taken from the mother plant
(3) the plants grown from the seeds of the self-fertilization of the mother plant.

If you think that's incorrect.
Please explain why.

Have a nice day

cryptolab

 

[Arthur]

Selfish is a last ditch effort by a plant to save the genetics if a plant has not been Polinated, whether done by nature or by man, it is a technical inbreed. It is not a way to continually pass on good generics, they will degrade over time.

A clone IS the mother plant, no genetics have been "passed on" as it is the original plant weather it's the first clone taken or the 1000th. This is why a Comercial grow clones from mothers and doesn't grow from seed, stability of genetics.

To correctly pass on genetics for untold generations, a male and female will be needed for any individual strain.

I am by no means an expert, but have grown for close to 30 yrs and this is what I've seen, having both, cloned same mother for several years, and selfed genetics to save a strain that couldn't be replaced. The genetics come from the mother, but are not an exact copy of the mothers.