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[Frankthetank]

 

[Frankthetank]

 

[Frankthetank]

 

[Cerebral Goo]

Anyone here used "the toad" or 5-MEO-DMT? What are your thoughts?

I'm considering it to treat PTSD. Solo or with a psychedelic therapist if I can find one with creds.

Either way is very expensive so I'm taking my time to explore it.

I done 5-dmt twice. Very different from "regular" DMT. Both times we consumed it as powder blasted through the nose in very large doses. Basically the amount the body releases at death. Both in non controlled situations. I'm a very experienced psychonaught and it's it's nothing to play with! Called the god molecule for a reason. Not visual like other psychedelics. I did it just to do it and not for use a psychological tool, so my experience while very heavy and enlightening were very different from a lot of others. Hard to describe, but it's like you are outside of your own existence. I wasn't looking for anything when I did it, but it will show you solutions to problems at exponential speed and most people experience ego death with it and that is where the helpful experience lies. Ego death will come with acceptance, show you solutions, show you that certain things aren't important, and will get you moving past issues in the right settings and with the right "guides"

I don't recommend heavy psychedelics to people past the level of mushrooms, but since you brought it up and are already on the path, I personally believe that they are tools when you get to certain points, a lot of people have no other alternatives. Personally think with the proper guides/shaman, it can be used very effectively for a myriad of issues. Do you homework, do some more homework, and go from there

 

[420Forever]

powder blasted through the nose in very large doses.

in non controlled situations.

ppp

 

[Frankthetank]

 

[Cerebral Goo]

I didn’t have the balls for a second one…. And truth be told, one did the trick….

You’re right, there’s no visuals, just black (I suspect some folks call this being in space…)

The way it helped was very strange….. in the months afterwards, I realized my self awareness had ramped up by hundreds of percent. In this, I was able to see the ways I viewed the world, how I got that way…. But then it was up to me to actually do the fixing (integration)….. I think it’s obvious to all readers, I struggle with this. You must keep re-making the same progress, over and over again…. The 5 meo was like a window into my subconscious, helping me realize the state I was in, exactly how I got there…. And gave me the ability to have the insight to fix it. BUT….it didn’t do the work for me.

I also used Buddhist teachings alongside….. which (in case you’re not aware) is less a religion, and more psychological training on a deep level.

As I said….. it’s scary, and honestly…I’m not even positive I recommend it….you can’t put the blinders back on…no matter what. And it’s for everything…not just your PTSD.

I found myself uninterested in any bullshit, I could no longer ignore the things in my life that weren’t working….(including my marriage, most friendships, etc)…. It also made me aware of just how much I was attempting to ignore the pain I was in…. And I did feel like that was a big negative….

I wouldn’t go back and not do it, per se….. but I do urge caution. It’s the single most life changing thing I’ve done…. Looking back, I’m not even really the same person, before to after…. Not fixed, but wide eyed and aware.


……if you like blissful ignorance, perhaps stay away from the Toad…

Did you do it in a controlled setting with a guide? We sort of briefly discussed this with shrooms the other week. You have very valid points with letting the genie out of the bottle! That's one of the things about any kind of therapy. Once realizations are out, there's no going back. Hence the reason I just stated to Vitamin, I don't like recommending psychedelics heavier than mushrooms.

 

[Cerebral Goo]

“ Until you face your subconscious, it will control your life, and you’ll call it fate.”
-Carl Jung

great quote!

 

[420Forever]

@VitaMan dunno if ur familiar with it, or even know anything about it, but, there'z alwayz the option of takin an ayahuasca journey....i mean, it'z def not for the faint of heart, and u def wanna do it in a controlled setting with otherz, but....jus an option is all ppp

 

[420Forever]

BUT, in other newz -> mmmmmmmmmm, milky way midnight bar ppp