New Grower Looking for commercial auto strain!

I can't recommend think different highly enough..if I was going to grow autos commercially that would be my choice..friend used to grow in Holland a few years ago commercially and he said it was one of the best smokes he has had in years..potency and yield are top notch ..only downside is that they take nearer 80 days to finish but a damn fine smoke and once cured..wow.

He was even more stunned to learn it was an auto and finished in just under 80 days. Unthinkable years ago
 
Think different cant be compared to photo strains IMO. It's hyped up because of the yeilds but its not a great smoke at all.
 
G13 Labs Auto AK can put me to sleep after ONE bowl. Auto Seeds Trans Siberian will put you on your butt. Dinafem Auto White Widow? Smelly, STICKY, stinky, medicating (according to my Mrs with fibromyalgia.) Had some Freedom of Seeds White Goblin (Ak47 crossed with White Widow,) was some fire looking bud and awesome smoke.

My point is there are some AWESOME auto strains out there that are really potent. To those that argue that photos are stronger; I won't 100% disagree but I do think that's a hardcore blanket statement. There are a lot of companies that produce autos that haven't been grown by growers on AFN yet; I just think you can't say something is 100% when 50% of it hasn't even been grown or documented yet :wiz:

If you are looking for commercial viability; then treat it like it's a business. Write up a rough business plan. Figure out your overhead. I don't sell commercially (or at all for that fact,) but every grow I come up with a Return On Investment (ROI) plan; it's an estimate on how much I've spent on electricity, nutrients, and grow stuff for that particular grow, then when I harvest I get my dry weight and determine what I would have had to pay street price if I had bought it all myself. I've saved THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in the past year even after expenses.

I think one of the problems with growing autos vs photos commercially is that you have one plant that can be grown practically indefinitely (the photo strain,) and the other is pretty much born with a predisposition to die (the auto.) Like the others have stated; once you have a cloning/veg area for photos; there's no better way to replicate your bud production. I personally can attest to this; I grew some photos on my last grow and successfully cloned 5 (out of 12) cuttings! One plant turned into 5 new plants; and yes it did take a good 10 days to root but once they did; not only did I have a new plant; I had new plants that were sexually mature and over 2 months old. Little more than a "head start" on seedlings.

And I'll tell you flat out; after growing 20+ plants on my last auto grow; it's a TON OF WORK. Like your evenings? Not any more you don't. Like your weekends? Not any more you don't. You're going to be spending so much time tweaking, training, watering, worrying, etc. It's a labor of love, don't get me wrong. But do understand what you're undertaking here.

Think different cant be compared to photo strains IMO. It's hyped up because of the yeilds but its not a great smoke at all.

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http://www.hightimes.com/view/strongest-strains-2013

are there autos that can be compared with these?

The best photo strains are still more potent than the best autos, but the gap is closing. I look at it this way, I can take 5 hits of this photo or 8 hits of this auto and I'm going to get to the same place. To me, that's all that really matters. I've done two auto/photo comparison grows, Black Skull Pineapplegum auto and photo and World of Seeds Pakistan Valley photo and Pakistani Ryder auto. In both cases the photos were more potent but not by a whole lot. Bear in mind that ruderalis, the basis for all dwarf auto strains, has virtually no THC. As breeders move farther away from the original Low Ryder based breeds the potency is going up.
 
IMO in terms of potency its about how well its grown out and well taken care of :2cents:

You are right, auto plants are sensitive, much more than photos and have time clock. That is why we all lose some final dry weight with every mistake and can not prolong veg stage. And that is perhaps why so many autos finish with loose unfirm buds what has never brought perfect smoke.

Here I have 90g buds from a totally screwed photo grow and yes, there is a question about potency, because plants hadnt been treated the right way. Like many, many autos grown around.
 
Hey muddy great info! I've never used cfls. How does yours compare to hid? You're using reg seed cuz you made them?or you don't trust fems?
 
I liked the Think Different smoke, was a nice 'day stone'.. Also 8 zips from a first time DWC run i could not have been happier!

My experience with autos is short but i have grow out a few different strains now and i want to mention Auto Acid from paradise seed bank. These are a CBD+ strain intended as a medicinal strain. She has been by far the least fussy and the best smoke, super pungent and medium yield. Pushed i would say 6zips is achievable.

Another really nice smoke was the blue mystic but she was a pain in the arse, clean a 20L bucket in 3 days near the end! Again yield is an issue as most autos are bred to stay small for stealth..

I am planning a photo grow for the first time in years just to see what i can do with DWC.. (I was a old school soil grower)

Just my 2cents.
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Check out my post the day I hate. You can see what I just cropped. Strain takes 6weeks flower and smells and tastes better than any auto I've had. You could have a veg area so you veg for the 6 weeks while the other is flowering. Constantly rotate a crop then and select a good mother which proves to be the most dank and best yielding. No game of luck then like when growing from a seed.
 
G13 Labs Auto AK can put me to sleep after ONE bowl. Auto Seeds Trans Siberian will put you on your butt. Dinafem Auto White Widow? Smelly, STICKY, stinky, medicating (according to my Mrs with fibromyalgia.) Had some Freedom of Seeds White Goblin (Ak47 crossed with White Widow,) was some fire looking bud and awesome smoke.

My point is there are some AWESOME auto strains out there that are really potent. To those that argue that photos are stronger; I won't 100% disagree but I do think that's a hardcore blanket statement. There are a lot of companies that produce autos that haven't been grown by growers on AFN yet; I just think you can't say something is 100% when 50% of it hasn't even been grown or documented yet :wiz:

If you are looking for commercial viability; then treat it like it's a business. Write up a rough business plan. Figure out your overhead. I don't sell commercially (or at all for that fact,) but every grow I come up with a Return On Investment (ROI) plan; it's an estimate on how much I've spent on electricity, nutrients, and grow stuff for that particular grow, then when I harvest I get my dry weight and determine what I would have had to pay street price if I had bought it all myself. I've saved THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in the past year even after expenses.

I think one of the problems with growing autos vs photos commercially is that you have one plant that can be grown practically indefinitely (the photo strain,) and the other is pretty much born with a predisposition to die (the auto.) Like the others have stated; once you have a cloning/veg area for photos; there's no better way to replicate your bud production. I personally can attest to this; I grew some photos on my last grow and successfully cloned 5 (out of 12) cuttings! One plant turned into 5 new plants; and yes it did take a good 10 days to root but once they did; not only did I have a new plant; I had new plants that were sexually mature and over 2 months old. Little more than a "head start" on seedlings.

And I'll tell you flat out; after growing 20+ plants on my last auto grow; it's a TON OF WORK. Like your evenings? Not any more you don't. Like your weekends? Not any more you don't. You're going to be spending so much time tweaking, training, watering, worrying, etc. It's a labor of love, don't get me wrong. But do understand what you're undertaking here.



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Haha second time I seen that movie pop up on here. My mate owes me 3oz as we sort each other out 3 from our crop as we got it timed so that we are down different times and never out of weed that way even if a crap yield. Anyway I'm gonna be smoking some agent orange sipping on a small glass of brandy and gonna watch that film. I bloody love it lol.

Anyway yeah your right i think lol bit gone but sure were on the same page. Not all photos are better than autos. It's just I go for the known strong strains such as exodus cheese, g13 haze, blue cheese and the other well known strong strains. I've smoked some critical+ cross exodus cheese and thought it'll be dank but felt critical jack auto was better. Good thing with photos is picking a mother which is to your taste.

Also I forgot to say I only vegged my 6week strain 4 weeks as I wanted it to take as long as it would should I have grown autos. It's just opened my eyes and made me finally decide a veg tent is a must.
 
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