Mephisto Genetics Mephisto super soil mix

[atticassason]

Just got my super soil, water only mix. Going to plant my new strain from them. Not real sure the exact name but Mitch told me it's a chem dog Walter white white cheese and maybe something else lol. had anyone used this super soil yet and have any advice or tricks. Maybe some pics. I plan on using creek water and adding some calmag only.

 

[Ronin]

Good morning @atticassason
I believe the strain you speak of is White Chem
As we have spoken before in regards to the MASS, I'll post my info on it's use so it may help anyone else that's running it.
I generally run 3.5gal+ airpots with the mix.
I fill the bottom 2/3 with the mix blended in my soil. I use Roots Formula 707 primarily, and occasionally Roots Original.
I mix it @ 2tbs per gallon of soil.
As far as feeding goes.. The only additives I'm giving are O.G.Tea Veganic Special Sauce,Kelp and molasses.
I add Molasses maybe 3 times through their life. Feeding the microbes
I do alternate with water, tea, water, tea...

Hope this helps

 

[atticassason]

Yes thank u so much. This is the type of info I'm looking for. I guess this stuff is so new that it's kind of a learning curve for most. I was worried about feeding autos nutes as this us my first time ever trying them. I figured this route not only will be safer but taste a he'll of a lot better.

 

[atticassason]

Good morning @atticassason
I believe the strain you speak of is White Chem
As we have spoken before in regards to the MASS, I'll post my info on it's use so it may help anyone else that's running it.
I generally run 3.5gal+ airpots with the mix.
I fill the bottom 2/3 with the mix blended in my soil. I use Roots Formula 707 primarily, and occasionally Roots Original.
I mix it @ 2tbs per gallon of soil.
As far as feeding goes.. The only additives I'm giving are O.G.Tea Veganic Special Sauce,Kelp and molasses.
I add Molasses maybe 3 times through their life. Feeding the microbes
I do alternate with water, tea, water, tea...

Hope this helps

@Ronin the molasses u add like begining middle and end? Or just when u think the soil needs it. And who's it made by last question do u mix the kelp in with the OG Tea? Or feed them those seprate

 

[Ronin]

@Ronin the molasses u add like begining middle and end? Or just when u think the soil needs it. And who's it made by last question do u mix the kelp in with the OG Tea? Or feed them those seprate

I add the molasses at the beginning, in the middle and a bit towards the end.
Each plant is different so I adjust accordingly.
As far as brands go..
I'd try to source something made locally.
Brer Rabbit Blackstrap is one I have used that should be available everywhere.

RE Kelp: I add the kelp to the tea mix

 

[atticassason]

I add the molasses at the beginning, in the middle and a bit towards the end.
Each plant is different so I adjust accordingly.
As far as brands go..
I'd try to source something made locally.
Brer Rabbit Blackstrap is one I have used that should be available everywhere.

RE Kelp: I add the kelp to the tea mix

Thank u. I really appropriate it man. I'll keep u posted on my first ever auto grow.

 

[BCrisis420]

Good morning @atticassason
I believe the strain you speak of is White Chem
As we have spoken before in regards to the MASS, I'll post my info on it's use so it may help anyone else that's running it.
I generally run 3.5gal+ airpots with the mix.
I fill the bottom 2/3 with the mix blended in my soil. I use Roots Formula 707 primarily, and occasionally Roots Original.
I mix it @ 2tbs per gallon of soil.
As far as feeding goes.. The only additives I'm giving are O.G.Tea Veganic Special Sauce,Kelp and molasses.
I add Molasses maybe 3 times through their life. Feeding the microbes
I do alternate with water, tea, water, tea...

Hope this helps

2 questions. Do you have a journal on here where you used the supersoil mix?
You said u add 2 tbs per gallon of soil, so roughly how many tablespoons come in the pack?

 

[BII]

I've just received a packet. I plan to use coco coir, following the directions provided (until instructed otherwise). I've only ever done coco/hydro, so soil is totally alien, new, to me.

A few questions:
1) 2 tablespoons/gallon: Is this a leveled tablespoon (14.7 mL volume), or a full(er) normal spoon-full? Would it be more accurate to measure out the soil by weight? If so, how many grams/gallon?

2) Watering: How is it done? Should I do say ≥10% drain-to-waste/run-off or is drainage to be avoided, with this washing out the nutrients? If there is drainage, should I pour that back on the soil? Or is bottom feeding best?

3) Are dry-wet cycles desired? As with coco coir/perlite, should I let top layers dry out and/or the pot become light(er) before feeding? Or is a single daily feeding best? Or are multiple daily small feedings best?

4) Ronin filled his pots with 2/3s soil mix, not the recommended 1/2. I similarly plan to use approx. 3.5 L pots. Should I essentially assume that the amount of super soil mix used should be comparable to that used in say a 5 gallon container (presuming that is what is needed to support a monster plant throughout its life)? Am I short-changing, cheating, underfeeding, my plants if I use the recommended 1/2 filling in less than 5 gallon containers?

5) Regarding the pot/container to be used: If I use a plastic wastebasket/garbage container, how many and what pattern of holes should I drill in it? Should only I drill holes above a certain level, such as 1 or 2 inches, to allow water to collect there? Or do I want holes lower, even on the bottom to assure full runoff? How many holes and what pattern should there be (such as more towards top or bottom)?

6) Water: Should this be pHed? If using coco/perlite, do I pH to 5.8? Or even though I'm using coco, does super soil need soil-friendly pH --if so, what pH?

7) Nutes: Is it OK to selectively use some additives, such as Bud Igniter, Bud Factor X, Terpinator, etc.? If I don't add worm casings, I presume I can supplement with any of the usual microbial supplements, e.g.., Voodoo Juice, Great White?

 

[atticassason]

2 questions. Do you have a journal on here where you used the supersoil mix?
You said u add 2 tbs per gallon of soil, so roughly how many tablespoons come in the pack?

It's hard to tell exactly how much comes in the pack. But one pack will do a 1.5 cubic foot bag of soil.

 

[Ronin]

2 questions. Do you have a journal on here where you used the supersoil mix?
You said u add 2 tbs per gallon of soil, so roughly how many tablespoons come in the pack?

@BCrisis420 the only documented grow I have is the Grape Crinkle using the MASS.
I have since run 4-5 other plants with much better results.

I've just received a packet. I plan to use coco coir, following the directions provided (until instructed otherwise). I've only ever done coco/hydro, so soil is totally alien, new, to me.

A few questions:
1) 2 tablespoons/gallon: Is this a leveled tablespoon (14.7 mL volume), or a full(er) normal spoon-full? Would it be more accurate to measure out the soil by weight? If so, how many grams/gallon?

2) Watering: How is it done? Should I do say ≥10% drain-to-waste/run-off or is drainage to be avoided, with this washing out the nutrients? If there is drainage, should I pour that back on the soil? Or is bottom feeding best?

3) Are dry-wet cycles desired? As with coco coir/perlite, should I let top layers dry out and/or the pot become light(er) before feeding? Or is a single daily feeding best? Or are multiple daily small feedings best?

4) Ronin filled his pots with 2/3s soil mix, not the recommended 1/2. I similarly plan to use approx. 3.5 L pots. Should I essentially assume that the amount of super soil mix used should be comparable to that used in say a 5 gallon container (presuming that is what is needed to support a monster plant throughout its life)? Am I short-changing, cheating, underfeeding, my plants if I use the recommended 1/2 filling in less than 5 gallon containers?

5) Regarding the pot/container to be used: If I use a plastic wastebasket/garbage container, how many and what pattern of holes should I drill in it? Should only I drill holes above a certain level, such as 1 or 2 inches, to allow water to collect there? Or do I want holes lower, even on the bottom to assure full runoff? How many holes and what pattern should there be (such as more towards top or bottom)?

6) Water: Should this be pHed? If using coco/perlite, do I pH to 5.8? Or even though I'm using coco, does super soil need soil-friendly pH --if so, what pH?

7) Nutes: Is it OK to selectively use some additives, such as Bud Igniter, Bud Factor X, Terpinator, etc.? If I don't add worm casings, I presume I can supplement with any of the usual microbial supplements, e.g.., Voodoo Juice, Great White?

@BII Check out GBD's SuperSoil Test Thread for info regarding usage with coco.
If memory serves me correct Briman used coco with his test run

RE #1: 2 Tbs leveled out.
RE #2: Regarding watering: I can't offer advice as I'm not in coco.
RE #3: I prefer to term it wet and moist cycles.
When the medium dries the microbes die.
I try to keep the medium moist at all times. I gauge waterings/feedings by weight of the container.

RE #4: I do the 2/3 mix as GBD made the mix to work in conjunction with Roots Original soil.
I use Formula 707 which is not amended with as much as the Roots Original.
My thoughts are by adding more to the mix I have upped the 707 to equal the Original.
This all works well in my environment, which may not work well with everyone's. Caveat Emptor.

RE #5: I use Airpots exclusively. As far as I'm concerned, the more holes the better

RE #6: I can't add anything here.
I run organic so I never ph anything.

RE #7: I have no experience with the BI,BFX, or the Terpinator so I can't help there.
I do recommend using microbial innoculants and supplements.
Keep a healthy grow medium and your plants will love you for it.

Hope my ramblings may help