Monkey needs some help

[CLMonkey]

High I'm monkey, and i need some help.
I have a photo i am having issues with.
I would like to say first off that i know that my pot is way too small, and it's root bound, i need to figure out a way to get her to finish.
She is in a 1 gal pot with 60/40 coco/perlite
and she is 34 days into flower.
I originally was using my well water and that just added to my salt build up, so i went to RO. I did a flush to get rid of the salts, then let her dry 3 days before giving her nutes.
I am using GH 3 part,cal/mag,GH Bloom Boost,High Brix Molasses,Root drench
So recap:
Root bound (pot to small),Showing sings of K def ( pail leaf edges and brown spots starting along edges), but Showing signs of nutes burn (leaves curl down)
this is what the effected leafs look like.


This is the small pot she is in


I have been posting pictures and some play by play here> https://www.autoflower.org/f24/60-days-into-photo-grow-i-need-some-input-23194.html

I need opinions and ideas on how i can keep my meds alive.
Thank you
Monkey
:karma Cloud::Thank You:

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Hi Monkey

please answer the following:

How often are you watering/feeding?
What amount of nutrient are you giving?
Are you getting runoff drainage through when feeding?
Do you ever give plain water?
What is the pH of the nutrient you give?
What is the pH of the drain off?
What are the EC levels nutrient going in and coming out?

Try and answer a few of these and we'll have a little more info to work on....

All the best

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto

 

[CLMonkey]

Hi Monkey

please answer the following:

How often are you watering/feeding?
What amount of nutrient are you giving?
Are you getting runoff drainage through when feeding?
Do you ever give plain water?
What is the pH of the nutrient you give?
What is the pH of the drain off?
What are the EC levels nutrient going in and coming out?

Try and answer a few of these and we'll have a little more info to work on....

All the best

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto

Thanks for responding,
I water when feels dry, lately that has been every other day.
All nutes are per gal - Im feeding 10ml GH macro,5ml GH Grow,15ml GH Bloom,5ml cal/mag i feed like this once, then when dry i feed at half the rate i just stated, and add 1tsp molasses,10ml root drench, i then let it dry out, then water with plain water and alow to dry. Then i repeat the feeding schedule.
I try to keep the PH in at 5.8, and the last time i checked run off was 6.0.
usually takes about 32-40 oz to see run off out the hempy hole. i then dump another 32 oz in her.
Ill be honest and say i don't check EC, but the RO water reads 40 ppm straight up, and usually around 1300 with nutes.

I thought about cutting the bottom off the bucket, and setting it in a little more soil, but she's flowering and not sure i could do it without throwing a rag in the works even more.
I even tried feeding until i got my run off and then plugging the hempy hole so the pot held the nutes for an hour before allowing it to drain. this seamed to help a little, but i don't want to drown her.
Let me know if you need anything else
Thanks
Monkey
:karma Cloud:
the hempy pot is the small black one in the middle, i don't know if you can see the hempy hole to give you an idea of how high off the bottom the hole is

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Hello Monkey

Please use my correct title... King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto....

I'm not a coco expert so anyone who is please chip in....

Is the GH range recommended for use in coco? Canna (the company) recommend using a specially formulated coco feed to take into account the fact that coco binds certain minerals including potassium. If your coco is unbuffered initially potassium may be made unavailable to the plant due to being absorbed by the coco particles. If your feed is not formulated for coco this may lead to problems.

Potassium is absorbed more efficiently at higher pH so you could raise your nutrient pH slightly, potassium is better absorbed at pH 6.5 rather than 5.8

1300ppm is high..... (Especially if using the TDS scale and slightly high if using EC x 700 scale.) which may account for the signs of over fert that you mention, also allowing the coco to dry too much increases the relative concentration of nutrient salt in the root zone again causing problems.

Canna advise never just give coco plain water it upsets the buffering of the coco, again resulting in potential probs. Cannas recommendation is a minimum feed strength of 8Cf or 0.8EC = 400ppm (tds) or 560 ppm (ec x700).

Coco and perlite will be a free draining medium and you could water daily with a more dilute nutrient solution allowing a good runoff out the bottom, I really think your plants would thank you for it.

You could try potting on into a slightly larger pot and giving a root stim... Thats what I would do though some autoflower purists would probably advise against... also root stim at a maintenance dose of 1/8th strength throughout flower tickles the plant to keep producing root hairs which ultimately helps nutrient uptake.

In Summary King Mr Jorilla ganjamotos Recommendations:

Get a specialist coco formulation feed
Use a more dilute nutrient solution more frequently
Raise the pH of your nutrient solution slightly
Re--pot into a slightly bigger pot & use a root stim till flush.
Send me your biggest main cola in appreciation of my excellent Kingly advice.

Any coco experts please feel free to correct me / advise monkey if he could be doing anything else

Good luck

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto.

 

[blue]

Hi There ^_^

Not wanting to step on

correct title... King Mr Jo...pfffffft ^_^

any toes here, but it's my understanding that you water coco at a lower PH than soil. In the range of 5.5 - 6.2

Yours seems like its sitting at 6.2, so i'd be lowering it to 5.8 if possible if it were mine.

I'm no coco expert though!
I've only used canna coco plus (medium) with specific canna coco nutes. So can't really comment on the nute lineup.
Everything else "the king" says (lol) sounds like good advice.

 

[Clix]

Something else you can do is swing the ph slowly up then back to norm then down then back up to norm it allows you to grab the harder to get nutes that need the higher or lower ph. I can NOT stress ENU to be very gentle if doing this, to much at once can very easly ph shock the plant they do not like that as I found out the hard way on that lol Also never to high or to low in my personal experience (WITCH IS VERY LIMITED) never above 6.5 and never below 5. When I have done this successfuly in the low end it was 5.3ish and on the high end it was 6.4ish. I read this method on this site at some point although I do not remember who it was who said it so I can not give them credit but if they read this they should speak up. hope this helps in some way Happy gorwing

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Hi There ^_^

Not wanting to step on any toes here....

"the king" .

Yes don't go Stepping on my BLUE* suede shoes.... you serf....

Good advice from BLUE*, you are right for the usual pH recommendation parameters... But Mr Monkey has been using plain water which alters things slightly... as he will have altered the buffering of the coco.

Mr Monkeys likes to keep his pH as stated at 5.8 which is not the best pH for optimum potassium absorption... I advised an increase in pH to hopefully alleviate the deficiency (to 6.5)... he could do this as a temporary measure whilst his lady pulls herself around (alternatively it could be dropped to pH 5.5 though too low a pH could affect the cal/mag)...

Again I'm no coco expert (or any kind of expert for that matter) so anyone feel free to contribute...

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto of ganjamotovilleland.

 

[blue]

I'm out of my depth! ^_^

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

Something else you can do is swing the ph slowly up then back to norm then down then back up to norm it allows you to grab the harder to get nutes that need the higher or lower ph. I can NOT stress ENU to be very gentle if doing this, to much at once can very easly ph shock the plant they do not like that as I found out the hard way on that lol Also never to high or to low in my personal experience (WITCH IS VERY LIMITED) never above 6.5 and never below 5. When I have done this successfuly in the low end it was 5.3ish and on the high end it was 6.4ish. I read this method on this site at some point although I do not remember who it was who said it so I can not give them credit but if they read this they should speak up. hope this helps in some way Happy gorwing

Yes great advice....

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto likes swinging.....

Setting the pH at the lower end of the scale and allowing it to rise to the top of the range... before re-setting at the bottom...

This allows the plant the opportunity to absorb all the nutrients more efficiently...

"I'm the King of the swingers Mr Jorilla man is me"

Toodle pip

King Mr Jorilla ganjamoto.

 

[Mr ganjamoto]

I'm out of my depth! ^_^

Nonsense.... Good general advice for coco.... I'd quite happily leave you in charge of the King Jorilla farm...

Anyway swimming is generally more exhilerating than a paddle...

King Jorilla.