Lighting My Summer Experiment-MINI SMR/AA Gro, GN MS0006.

[Darth Vapour]

Hi guys. Well woke this morning to STILL find yellowing and what looks like Mg def. I gave Epsom salts, molasses 4ml of biobloom AND a foliar spray of Espsom?!

So enough is enough, I'm flushing the SMR. Just set out 20 litres of tap water, will let it stand and then pH it and flush it. Screw organics or whatever I just really need some bud now.
After these past few months buying seeds, lights, tents etc etc and having no harvest, I'm broke, so I can't afford a new set of nutrients yet. I'm just going to use the stuff I use for the rest of my garden.

Call me crazy, but ALL my chilli plants and some other veg I had in Biobizz Allmix were all looking yellowish, well, pale green. As soon as I transplanted to a cheap, £3.50 compost, boom, complete change, nice green healthy, lush growth--and that includeds my Assassin in there.

I'm never buying Biobizz again, nutes or soil. I'm sorry but I'm really not impressed with that at all and it has cost me so much money it makes me feel sick. After this little experiment, it's clear to me that it doesn't matter if I use rainwater, tapwater or bottled spring water, lime or no lime,,whatever. It can only be the biobizz. Fellow growers around here called me crazy for blaming tap water as they ALL use it with no problems at all! Doh!

I need a complete change, I really believe in organic growing, food and dope, but fuck it, if it aint working-I need to change it! Quickly! lol.

Assassin isn't looking as bad, but can see the signs starting to show....

Any comments or advice greatly appreciated.

Dazed.

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Hey dazed! I must say, in general they look pretty good. Maybe a few minor issues here and there but don't radically change things up. You said it best, finish this grow off, looks like you'll get a harvest soon and switch up the medium. As for the chloramine I'm not to sure how to deal with it.

Can you post more pics in natural light of the overall plant and what are your latest pH readings at? If it's low maybe top dress a sprinkle of lime in the top layer of soil.

 

[Dazed]

Hey Gilly bro, thanks for taking a look. :Sharing One:

I just took a bunch of pictures as they are right now, I haven't done anything yet. Took in the best light I could without taking them outside! They look darker green than they actually are, sorry, this is my best photography skills here!

The SMR looks the worst.




AA is showing signs of same thing.



The problem is getting worse by the hour, they smell funny too, like a freshly cut lawn or something!

I might, just might, be able to get some rainwater from a friend later, but it isn't looking promising at all. So I only have tap water sat out for 24 hrs, which I know has Chloromines in it.

This is what I have to work with, totally broke right now after all the expense getting this far. The Growmore isn't organic, I had that from my dads lol as it has NPK 7-7-7 which I thought might help.



What do I do.....

Dazed..

Please be kind I feel like a big enough goof as it is!

 

[AndyBotwin]

Hey Dazed, I have not had time to read through this whole grow but chloramine can be removed with an aquarium conditioner such as Amquel. That's the quickest and cheapest method compared to something like an RO system with carbon filter. Another alternative is to add some humic acid such as worm castings to your bubbling water and let it sit for a day. The humates will cause the chloramine to break down into chlorine and ammonia which can then be bubbled out normally.

There have been lots of tests done and chloramine doesn't really harm plants, but it does kill off the microherd. So if you are using synthetic nutes, you can use the tap water with chloramine without too much worry. Organic growing is where it can cause you issues since it kills the microbes that supply food to the roots. I grew just fine with my tap water back when I used chemical nutes, and it was only after I switched to organics that I needed to deal with the chloramine.

Overall your plants are looking pretty good. A little yellowing down low at this age is not abnormal, so hopefully it won't spread up the plant.

 

[Darth Vapour]

Top dress with some lime if you have it leftover and just watchem grow. They look good man, yellowing at the bottom is normal. If I stare at my plants long enough I find tons of shit but just try and have fun and keeper eazy.

It will take time for the lime to kick in so try and be patient. Possibly up to two weeks which is OK, your plants aren't about to die man!

 

[Dazed]

Top dress with some lime if you have it leftover and just watchem grow. They look good man, yellowing at the bottom is normal. If I stare at my plants long enough I find tons of shit but just try and have fun and keeper eazy.

It will take time for the lime to kick in so try and be patient. Possibly up to two weeks which is OK, your plants aren't about to die man!

Hey Dazed, I have not had time to read through this whole grow but chloramine can be removed with an aquarium conditioner such as Amquel. That's the quickest and cheapest method compared to something like an RO system with carbon filter. Another alternative is to add some humic acid such as worm castings to your bubbling water and let it sit for a day. The humates will cause the chloramine to break down into chlorine and ammonia which can then be bubbled out normally.

There have been lots of tests done and chloramine doesn't really harm plants, but it does kill off the microherd. So if you are using synthetic nutes, you can use the tap water with chloramine without too much worry. Organic growing is where it can cause you issues since it kills the microbes that supply food to the roots. I grew just fine with my tap water back when I used chemical nutes, and it was only after I switched to organics that I needed to deal with the chloramine.

Overall your plants are looking pretty good. A little yellowing down low at this age is not abnormal, so hopefully it won't spread up the plant.

Thanks guys, I am listening to your advice. But if I leave that SMR, she will go fully yellow in the next 5 days, she should be much further along now, the pistols are just not growing. I will flush with the tap water and at least I know the pH will be right (after amendement to water) and then I can give her a small feed see how she reacts to that.

I'll keep my eye on the AA, see how she reacts to the next feed. By then I'll have some more rain water.

The pictures really don't show the true extent of the situation, the SMR just does not look well.

Thanks again, appreciate it.

 

[Dazed]

Top dress with some lime if you have it leftover and just watchem grow. They look good man, yellowing at the bottom is normal. If I stare at my plants long enough I find tons of shit but just try and have fun and keeper eazy.

It will take time for the lime to kick in so try and be patient. Possibly up to two weeks which is OK, your plants aren't about to die man!

Hey Dazed, I have not had time to read through this whole grow but chloramine can be removed with an aquarium conditioner such as Amquel. That's the quickest and cheapest method compared to something like an RO system with carbon filter. Another alternative is to add some humic acid such as worm castings to your bubbling water and let it sit for a day. The humates will cause the chloramine to break down into chlorine and ammonia which can then be bubbled out normally.

There have been lots of tests done and chloramine doesn't really harm plants, but it does kill off the microherd. So if you are using synthetic nutes, you can use the tap water with chloramine without too much worry. Organic growing is where it can cause you issues since it kills the microbes that supply food to the roots. I grew just fine with my tap water back when I used chemical nutes, and it was only after I switched to organics that I needed to deal with the chloramine.

Overall your plants are looking pretty good. A little yellowing down low at this age is not abnormal, so hopefully it won't spread up the plant.

Thanks guys, I am listening to your advice. But if I leave that SMR, she will go fully yellow in the next 5 days, she should be much further along now, the pistols are just not growing. I will flush with the tap water and at least I know the pH will be right (after amendement to water) and then I can give her a small feed see how she reacts to that.

I'll keep my eye on the AA, see how she reacts to the next feed. By then I'll have some more rain water.

The pictures really don't show the true extent of the situation, the SMR just does not look well.

Thanks again, appreciate it.

 

[Dazed]

Morning everyone, quick update. I fed the SMR last night with some of the Growmore 7-7-7. Still yellowing of more leaves this morning, but will take a while to work, if that's what it's going to do! Found a store with some cheap bottled spring water so I'm going to pick up some for the AA while I wait for it to rain!

AA looks good, SOME yellowing of bottom leaves, but that looks more natural than the SMR. Could be lot's of reasons for the yellowing but if no signs of improvement tonight/tomorrow-I'll flush the SMR.

I NEED some more nutrients, I honestly think my BioGrow has expired, it's really think and gloopy, and I've had it almost a year, plus it's the OLD label on it, so how old it is I really don't know.

Buds are starting to fill out on AA and she is starting to glisten with trich production!


SMR.


AA.


Dazed..

PS. this is probably going to gross a lot of you out, but I keep reading on organic gardening websites that fresh human urine is a super N rich fertilizer, so I mixed 1 part pee to 10 parts water and fed a little of that to the SMR!
Come on Sugar Mango---Drink my pee!

 

[Dazed]

Can anyone tell me what the other symptom is, it doesn't say but that is what I have I believe. Iron/Zinc?

Thanks for any help.

All other fan leaves have purple/red stems.

Dazed..

 

[Dazed]

My girl coverd in bud.


Assassin is looking really good.


SMR no worse, see what the pee does by tomorrow.

 

[Darth Vapour]

Some R Kelly shit goin on over here man!