Thanks for the replies and support. Its been 2 weeks since i went to 12/12 and HPS and now i have the very start of some buds. If these were indeed lowryder seeds which i understand is a hybrid of Northern Lights, could these plants have somehow reverted to Northern Lights? they are pushing 4 feet tall now and if they keep growing ill run out of room. Your thoughts were on target before, what do you think now??