No nutes.. but nitrogen toxic???

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Hey everyone,

First post on here and I think I'm in need of help :^S.
I have 2 royal dwarf
3 quickones
Their all in them fabric smart pots.
My temps are around 21-24c during the day and a little less during lights off (18-6) the humidity is around 60 to 70(really struggling to get it any lower)
PH run off was 6.5, the PH water I use is either 6.3 to 6.5.
I have a viparspectra 450w currently with veg and bloom on and it looks really nice.
Iv only used cal mag once and not fed them with anything else also the calmag was a very small amount.
So the problem I think no have is nitrogen toxicity?
Some of the fan leaves are starting to claw although nothing to extreme. Also there is a few rust spots on 2 of my plants(one is the bigger royal dwarf and other is a quick one.
Anyway I'm upload the pics and see what u all think. They were 30 days old yesterday lol. Need anymore info??
I have a black orchid inline fan which is sucking in the tent nicely.. erm a little fan blowing over the top (at one point it was directly on the the most "clawed" plant).
Erm ye any help? If I even need any?
This is my second grow btw so I'm not really experienced.

 

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Hey There!

It's looking great to me! I see those leaf tips doing a tiny downwards dip - I'd be thinking the same as you (but not worried at this point)

Iv only used cal mag once and not fed them with anything else also the calmag was a very small amount.
So the problem I think no have is nitrogen toxicity?

Have you checked your CalMag bottle for ingredients? I only ask because my CalMag (by Bloom) has N in it and can cause the same symptoms!

But looking nice and healthy and good size for 30 days to my eyes!

 

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Hey man,

Thanks, yeah I'm really happy with them it's just this issue is doing my head in lol it happened on my first grow and got real bad, I panicked and water/fed them etc and made it worse lol.
This time I'm looking for some help before I do anything.

I'm post the pic of the cal mag just in case I say it wrong.
Thanks for replying btw

 

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I'm post the pic of the cal mag just in case I say it wrong.
Thanks for replying btw

You're very welcome - and certainly don't panic! All is well with your plant

Looking at the nute bottle label it's got almost as much nitrogen in as calcium ... So i would put that claw firmly down to the cal mag feeding.

The leaves are a lovely colour and look velvetty to me (which i like) - I'd hold back on the calmag and go back to the water!

 

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Well good sir thanks for your reply and I'm take the advice and just water for now.
I'll keep you updated on the issue and hopefully all is Good!

 

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Blooo lovie--- ...did,...did he just call you "sir"? ........... You forgot the most important question mate: what are you growing in, what brand? Dsnip-- I'm with Bue here, a very minor touch of tip claw, a classic N-tox symptom,.. which leads us to the previous question, and the possible richness of the soil,... if it is a rich soil, and things are breaking down and cycling well in there, then the extra nitrate form the Ca-Mg must have pushed it just over the edge,... looking at this brand, I think it's an all nitrate formula, no carbonates,.. might have to be if Fe is in there (chemistry conflict), so indeed there's a significant amount of N in this formula,.... consider getting an alternative brand,... General Organics CaMg+ is a nice product, 1-0-0, mostly carbonate based,.. it used to be 0-0-0 all carbonate,...

 

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Haha just messin boss

Levingtons original multipurpose compost mixed with perlite. Also i mixed in John innes number 1 (for seedlings) also with perlite, I kinda used the number 1 as a mix on top of the levingtons so the seedlings were in that first and as the roots grow it gets into the levingtons mix... pretty dumb idea now I think about it but hey.. I'm full of dumb ideas.
That General organics is really expensive, I dunno if it's cheaper in the states but it's expensive in the uk, I think anyway after doin a quick Amazon and Google of it. Can u recommend any others??
Will the issue get worse as I water with just plain old tap water phed to 6.5? My run off is 6.5

 

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Try Canna Mono nutes Dsnip.

I'll have a look into them in a bit !

 

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Thanks guys seriously, Il take a pic tonight and post it to compare growth lol.

Il find a canna and go with them they seem to be a reasonable price. Also they seem to not put up the npk values on the sites where they sell it.. must be me.

What do u guys think of the soil? Will it be hot??

 

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That's 4 days growth, not bad a think?.

Also whaaat the bugga are them whitish? Marks??