New Grower Pay It Forward Seeds

[SkatterBrayne]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Zygote" data-source="post: 440426" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=440426" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-440426">Zygote said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Non-profit seed organization</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There is a good model being used for Vegetables and other food crops.</span></span><br /> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">It works like this;</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">You sell seeds in rich counties like the USA and UK.</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Use the money to finance free seeds to 3rd world farmers</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With information on how to grow and breed, plant selection and seed production and so on, with the goal of turning these farmers into seed producers that can provide Vegetables Seeds at a price that others 3rd world farmers can afford.</span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Thats a great model. I have often wondered why something like that combined with a hydroponic system taking advantage of basic physics hasnt been implimented on a large scale in arid regions such as africa... It would be highly effective I would think.</div>

 

[simple420]

<div class="bbWrapper">Dude a mix pack or pot of luck pack would be so cool.<br /> <br /> WHY?<br /> <br /> %100 ruderalis is probably no fun to smoke if you can <img src="/data/assets/smilies/wiz.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wiz:" title="Wizard :wiz:" data-shortname=":wiz:" /><br /> <br /> The beans have hyper genetics. Not junk! <br /> <br /> Constantly updating the mix breed with different genetics will keep the batch going,<br /> <br /> It could be like the San Francisco Sour Dough, started from the bottom Hop digity <br /> <br /> Simply re add one of the original or back cross the preferred genetics sparingly, don&#039;t see why this wont work. <br /> <br /> Now if it was a group effort then I could see a problem occurring, people always distrust craftsmanship.<br /> <br /> Imagine you get sent male photo seeds of dirt weed dusted in its pollen set up ready to go and ruin your batch... terrible. <img src="/data/assets/smilies/shrug.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":shrug:" title="Shrug :shrug:" data-shortname=":shrug:" /><br /> <br /> But as an individual effort I see it as a good thing. But I would keep adding to its genetics even if you are &quot;ripping it off&quot; who knows maybe one day people will be like &quot;yeah just grow that photo and start your strain from &#039;pay it forward&#039; &quot;<br /> GoooAuto</div>

 

[Zygote]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="SkatterBrayne" data-source="post: 440432" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=440432" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-440432">SkatterBrayne said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thats a great model. I have often wondered why something like that combined with a hydroponic system taking advantage of basic physics hasnt been implimented on a large scale in arid regions such as africa... It would be highly effective I would think. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Pedal Powered Irrigation Pump <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></span></span><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Making Rain</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In sub-Saharan Africa, many farmers wait for the unreliable rains, causing them to only harvest once or twice a year. They barely grow enough food to feed their family, let alone sell for profit. KickStart designs, manufactures, and sells high quality, low-cost irrigation pumps to these poor farmers so they can harvest year round, increase their production, and sell in local markets - increasing their net farm income by nearly 500%. For the first time, they can adequately feed their family, send thier children to school, and afford proper healthcare. Watch how Maina transformed his life with our irrigation pump.</span></span><br /> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">http://www.kickstart.org/</span><br /> </span></span> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><div style="text-align: center">[video=vimeo;33381021]http://vimeo.com/33381021#at=0[/video]&#8203;</div></div>

 

[gradolabs]

<div class="bbWrapper">I was gunna say, hydroponics is out when you barely have enough drinking water as it is. But simple designs like this which we take for granted in the developed world can open a lot of doors for countries who face such difficulties.<br /> <br /> But I digress. You could make something that helps people yodabuds. I say go for it.</div>

 

[yodabuds]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="gradolabs" data-source="post: 440473" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=440473" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-440473">gradolabs said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I was gunna say, hydroponics is out when you barely have enough drinking water as it is. But simple designs like this which we take for granted in the developed world can open a lot of doors for countries who face such difficulties.<br /> <br /> But I digress. You could make something that helps people yodabuds. I say go for it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> Thanks for the encouragement! I AM GOING to make something that will help others. My mind is SET! What I&#039;m not GOING to do is do it in a haphazard way. As AFN freed me from my dealer I am hoping with everyone&#039;s assistance I will be able to one day get an initative going to give back. My entire idea of the mix seeds was a) to offer meds that really would hold no value for people to use as breeding stock. B) they were femmed and the noob would have meds soon rather waste time sexing, c) I honestly thought that even though other genetics were used not one single seed in that mix is a replica of anyone&#039;s original strain...d) I was not trying to take away sales or be a ripper from anyone, I was wanting to do this through RCMC, as it would only be a seedbank of that nature that would even contemplate such an idea. Also I figured it would do nothing more than actually generate more sales, why would any breeder get upset if they are selling regular seeds, and to get a pack of the free seeds which would be fem and harder to copy or have value in being used, the person would HAVE to buy seeds from said breeders? That was my thinking behind that all. <br /> After getting input from others and seeing their side I see both sides of the coin. I am always an open minded person an like to see things from everyone&#039;s point of view. That bit of using the<br /> Mix seeds and coming across as a ripper got me thinking even and out side of the box of that issue. The more I thought about its just not a sound idea. I am just assuming what these beans were hit with, none of it was planned (actually pissed as I was not looking for a seeded harvest) so the beans could actually be from a plant in the over stuffed tent that could have hermied. That would NOT be the experience I would want a noob to have. So that entire idea is scrapped <img src="/data/assets/smilies/wiz.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wiz:" title="Wizard :wiz:" data-shortname=":wiz:" /><br /> <br /> Instead I am going to focus on making something of my own. I don&#039;t care if it takes years, its a project. In the meantime to get that itch of helping others out I will donate instead to fabulous ideas like the one with the water... :thumbs: <br /> So come join me on my ride. Its going to be one long journey but I think the end of the trip will be oh so worth it!<br /> Just got things underway today and just got a pot prepped to pop one of those very hard to find original lowryder&#039;s <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /><br /> This week should be the arrival of my 1&#039;x1&#039; gl40 grow tent, and my bsled 135w UFO(90w actual draw)....<br /> <img src="/data/assets/smilies/bow.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":bow:" title="Bow :bow:" data-shortname=":bow:" /> again thank you all for all the participation in this thread. Its helped me get more focused.<br /> <br /> :smokebuds:</div>

 

[OOOGaUtO]

<div class="bbWrapper">Great idea and do your thang brother Yoda you know I&#039;m here for pay it forward bro. Eternal gratitude. Thanks</div>

 

[Wet_Charles]

<div class="bbWrapper">pay it forward seeds should be more of an idea for seedbanks to accept seeds from everyone all around, I wanna donate some seeds too!</div>

 

[Bazooka Joe]

<div class="bbWrapper">Yoodabuds<br /> <br /> Maybe you should mail your donation beans to someone who has it figured out currently as you mentioned the AFN Dragon efforts here, perhaps they would be willing to pass them along to people who truly need the assistance. <br /> <br /> :no: HOWEVER<br /> Also something worth noting ,it might be much more thoughtful and more effort,... to give a reliable proven seed stock to donate, some needy med patients will find random unproven MIXED genetics could be a less viable answer to their needs and constraints. <br /> <br /> If the medically needy are the real intended beneficiary s of any commendable efforts , and not just some new growers who might not have much money for trademark beans. <br /> <br /> After all is said and done,<br /> It could be sort of cruel...<img src="/data/assets/smilies/help.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":help:" title="Help :help:" data-shortname=":help:" /> like sending unknown bag seeds to an already challenged grower, who&#039;s difficulty may be much more than you realize to do a grow. <br /> <br /> With possible disappointments or failed results on a grow they need prompt good results a lot more than non medical smokers or edible users,etc.<br /> <br /> <img src="/data/assets/smilies/point.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":point:" title="Exclamation Point Small :point:" data-shortname=":point:" /><br /> *Medical users need an almost fool proof genetic to afford them a greater likely hood of success.<br /> ** Often people who are ill will require a helper who may lack garden skills and a sturdy dependable strain will increase the odds of success, in my opinion I suggest saving your mixes for NON med growers eager to experiment and not in a dire need of good results. <br /> <br /> :list:<br /> My added note here is only trying to point out that IF you actually do get to doing something MIXED Beans are NOT something a medically needy person should be given, and certainly not unknowns that might not even auto~flower correctly .<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="/data/assets/smilies/peace.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peace:" title="Peace :peace:" data-shortname=":peace:" /><br /> peace amigos</div>

 

[yodabuds]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Bazooka Joe" data-source="post: 440747" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=440747" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-440747">Bazooka Joe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yoodabuds<br /> <br /> Maybe you should mail your donation beans to someone who has it figured out currently as you mentioned the AFN Dragon efforts here, perhaps they would be willing to pass them along to people who truly need the assistance. <br /> <br /> :no: HOWEVER<br /> Also something worth noting ,it might be much more thoughtful and more effort,... to give a reliable proven seed stock to donate, some needy med patients will find random unproven MIXED genetics could be a less viable answer to their needs and constraints. <br /> <br /> If the medically needy are the real intended beneficiary s of any commendable efforts , and not just some new growers who might not have much money for trademark beans. <br /> <br /> After all is said and done,<br /> It could be sort of cruel...<img src="/data/assets/smilies/help.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":help:" title="Help :help:" data-shortname=":help:" /> like sending unknown bag seeds to an already challenged grower, who&#039;s difficulty may be much more than you realize to do a grow. <br /> <br /> With possible disappointments or failed results on a grow they need prompt good results a lot more than non medical smokers or edible users,etc.<br /> <br /> <img src="/data/assets/smilies/point.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":point:" title="Exclamation Point Small :point:" data-shortname=":point:" /><br /> *Medical users need an almost fool proof genetic to afford them a greater likely hood of success.<br /> ** Often people who are ill will require a helper who may lack garden skills and a sturdy dependable strain will increase the odds of success, in my opinion I suggest saving your mixes for NON med growers eager to experiment and not in a dire need of good results. <br /> <br /> :list:<br /> My added note here is only trying to point out that IF you actually do get to doing something MIXED Beans are NOT something a medically needy person should be given, and certainly not unknowns that might not even auto~flower correctly .<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="/data/assets/smilies/peace.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peace:" title="Peace :peace:" data-shortname=":peace:" /><br /> peace amigos </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> Ahh after much thinking I even came up with my own conclusion that the mix bag of seeds is a horrible idea on many levels... This was all again NOTHING more than a sounding board for an idea <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I got a plan starting to form. First order of business is to pop one of those lowryders <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> <br /> So I got a plan and am more focused. In the meantime I NEED to be sure to start getting some meds! I figure this project is a VERY LONG TERM one.... In the meantime the next few harvests will have to be just med runs...<br /> Hoping to god my Blood Dragon and Grapefruit have not been hit with anything....</div>

 

[Wet_Charles]

<div class="bbWrapper">I would like collection of 1 million beans and then do a seedrun with all the in the world and do the ultimate mystery pack</div>