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will get you used to what is a light pot,and a pot heavy with water.

Arhhhhh sorry
Yea good idea! Never heard that before, thanks Brother Archie

 

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Does not look like much at first

But pull some branches back and inside

 

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This is the first plant that started loosing leaves.
Look how much less bushy and filled out she is compared to my other plant shown at the bottom. She has budded up well but in the last week or so put no weight on like the others. Im worried If I dont get on top of this now, the others will follow and I will loose these plants.

172cm tall

This is the leaves she has lost just today.

Below: Now this plant and all the others has started loosing leaves just like the plant above
164cm tall

 

[faded187]

Does not look like much at first

But pull some branches back and inside

these pics here are not N def. that's normal from lack of light. from the other pics it made me think that the leaves were climbing from the bottom up rapidly.that bein said id quit stressin on it. they look awesome to me.

 

[GCase]

I know there has been tons of advise. Read comments and agree with Blue could be a tad heavy on watering. However, they are some of the healthiest looking plants around. No sign of tip burns or iron deficiency that sometimes cause bright yellow tips and necrosis.

Your correct. Your plants look great. See-no obvious deficiency.

The leaves all look as if the plants have efficiently used the goodies in the leaves. Happens with some strains. Otherwise--just one of those things cannabis does as growing. In fact, outdoor canna will loose tons of leaves as flowering gets rolling. They have expended their earlier heavy need for N.

At times it is easier for the plant to use its stored energy and leaves are the primary source.

In fact, I view your loss of leaves as a sign of health and efficient use of resources.

Just thought would drop a comment in this regard. Others have addressed the additional questions.

I have one plant doing the same. Not nearly as voluptuous and attratctive as yours. But, for every leaf dropping more are growing where needed. On the positive side saves--a few minutes of trimming.

Keep us posted on these beasts. Going to take some time for flowering--so many buds and tall. Great grow.

Cheers

Cheers

 

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I know there has been tons of advise. Read comments and agree with Blue could be a tad heavy on watering. However, they are some of the healthiest looking plants around. No sign of tip burns or iron deficiency that sometimes cause bright yellow tips and necrosis.

Your correct. Your plants look great. See-no obvious deficiency.

The leaves all look as if the plants have efficiently used the goodies in the leaves. Happens with some strains. Otherwise--just one of those things cannabis does as growing. In fact, outdoor canna will loose tons of leaves as flowering gets rolling. They have expended their earlier heavy need for N.

At times it is easier for the plant to use its stored energy and leaves are the primary source.

In fact, I view your loss of leaves as a sign of health and efficient use of resources.

Just thought would drop a comment in this regard. Others have addressed the additional questions.

I have one plant doing the same. Not nearly as voluptuous and attratctive as yours. But, for every leaf dropping more are growing where needed. On the positive side saves--a few minutes of trimming.

Keep us posted on these beasts. Going to take some time for flowering--so many buds and tall. Great grow.

Cheers

Cheers

Thanks G
Less watering is the order of the day.
No doubt time will tell, thanks for the message.

 

[Muddy]

Hi Muddy,

Thanks for the message back!

Yes from the bottom first, yes from the centre near the stem. These are large inside leaves.
My tap water is run into a 200l (200 L = 52.8 gal) (200 L (200 L = 52.8 gal) = 52.8 gal) water butt and has an air stone running 24/7. This water is always stood for a few days until used.

Base water is reading the following from my Blue Labs EC Truncheon
CF - 6
EC - 0.6
PPM 500 - 300
PPM 700 - 420

Funny that you bring up RO Water, I was also going to ask if its OK to us RO water with soil and Advanced Nutrients.
My tap water is hard and has a high PH of 8.3.
Im definitely going to get a machine set up now.

Are you growing in soil and using RO water? What nutes are you using?
Thanks,
T.

As said above I tried the Accurate 8 and got no readings off it at all.
Anger got me and it was dumped in a sulk.

Since it's the bottom, inside fan leaves that are dropping off, I wouldn't be too concerned. Your plant is big and lush, so those leaves are well shaded. Once they are that cut off from the light source they die. Happens indoors or out, auto or photo. I'm going through that right now with the photos I have in my hydro room. They are very dense and everyday I find a dozen or so dead fan leaves laying on top of the soil. Not something to be overly concerned about. If it were the outer ones and it was spreading up the plant, that would be a different story.

As I said, I tried using AN pH Perfect with my tap water, which was at 250 ppm on the 500 scale. The results were so bad I stopped using it until I got the RO set up. So I'm back to using it again with the RO, which is what AN recommends. Your tap water, at 300 on the 500 scale, is even higher, so it comes as no surprise to me that you might be having issues. RO filters aren't that expensive. You can find a 50 or 100 gallon a day on eBay for around $100. Well worth it and as you can see, a must if you plan on continuing the use of pH Perfect.

Check that Accurate 8 again. It takes about 5 minutes for the readings to stabilize but if you're not getting any movement from the needle, it's probably bad and should be returned for a replacement. I had that happen on my first one but it was my fault. I dropped it on the concrete floor in the garage.

 

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my accurate 8 wet/ph button was stuck, so it wouldn't read earthier. I had to jiggle it out with needlenose pliars. put a little oil on my finger to lube it up... works wonders now.

 

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Since it's the bottom, inside fan leaves that are dropping off, I wouldn't be too concerned. Your plant is big and lush, so those leaves are well shaded. Once they are that cut off from the light source they die. Happens indoors or out, auto or photo. I'm going through that right now with the photos I have in my hydro room. They are very dense and everyday I find a dozen or so dead fan leaves laying on top of the soil. Not something to be overly concerned about. If it were the outer ones and it was spreading up the plant, that would be a different story.

As I said, I tried using AN pH Perfect with my tap water, which was at 250 ppm on the 500 scale. The results were so bad I stopped using it until I got the RO set up. So I'm back to using it again with the RO, which is what AN recommends. Your tap water, at 300 on the 500 scale, is even higher, so it comes as no surprise to me that you might be having issues. RO filters aren't that expensive. You can find a 50 or 100 gallon a day on eBay for around $100. Well worth it and as you can see, a must if you plan on continuing the use of pH Perfect.

Check that Accurate 8 again. It takes about 5 minutes for the readings to stabilize but if you're not getting any movement from the needle, it's probably bad and should be returned for a replacement. I had that happen on my first one but it was my fault. I dropped it on the concrete floor in the garage.

Thanks Muddy for the feedback!
Ive bought a DI Resin filter today in place of an RO System.
It arrives tomorrow, so with any luck thats the end of my water troubles. Im also buying a larger water but to store my water in.

I got very upset with all the soil PH probes I bought and they all got dumped in the bin.
Not one of them worked... Im going hydro at some point. Although Ive just bought a load of soil from my mate :-/
So get this soil used up then I fancy RDWC.... Ive decided Diesel is my newest bestest pal and he does RDWC with an Alien system I fancy buying.
Yea Diesel me n yooz gonna be buddies

 

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my accurate 8 wet/ph button was stuck, so it wouldn't read earthier. I had to jiggle it out with needlenose pliars. put a little oil on my finger to lube it up... works wonders now.

Thats better than mine, I got jack shit off mine from day one.
Cant find anyone in the UK selling them, I suppose mine got thumped during transit.