the small section on the left, if you were to put some shelves there, would be a great place to store your equipment , nutes and a 5gl. bucket of water to let off gas before you water your plants it will also add humidity the room.
Indoor PLEASE help me utilize the space that I have!
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Things I learned growing in a closet:
-Temperature will tend to be high. If you own the property and are responsible for modifications to it, I would recommend you vent upwards through a hole made in the ceiling. An extractor in the attic/crawlspace can vent your air outside the growing area. Put a suitably sized charcoal filter inside the room pulling the air from the top of the space and you'll avoid smell issues.
temp does tend to get sort of high. Sometimes fluctuates between 78-83, but in warm weather, ive seen it skyrocket. we do own the home, but its a 4 story town house, plants are currently on the third floor in a spare bedroom closet. so venting through a hole in the ceiling would put the hot air directly into our bedroom and, IMO, be an overall hassle/inconvenience. The closet door is open, but there is a light proof tarp (the last grow was photos) velcroed to the entryway. There are 2 holes cut in the tarp - one on the bottom left that has a carbon filter air purifier thing pushing fresh air into the room and one at the top right to exhaust hot air out into the room...same general idea??
-This type of ventilation means that you are supplying fresh air through the cracks around the door to the closet. You might consider putting an air filter on the incoming air to prevent dust/dirt/pet hair/anything floating around from getting into your grow area. Optional, by all accounts, but a nice touch.
-I would put down either tarping or flat plastic mats/trays to protect the floorboards. Carpet like that is pretty resilient, but odd moldy odors can give your grow away and get you in trouble if you're in a rental situation. Protect the floor with something and you'll feel more comfortable tending your plants without worrying about drips and spills.
good idea, and convenient as i already have a plastic tarp for painting..putting some mylar across the floor would be just as good, right?
-The plant will outgrow your space. Period. At some point, you will be good enough at this (maybe not right away, but eventually) that you'll end up with a space problem. When growing Autoflowers this means you'll need to master Low Stress Training (LST). You can do that by bending/tucking/tying down/ScrOG'ing, etc. Lots of methods, all of them discussed in depth on this site (search function will assist). If you're growing photo-sensitive cannabis, you can do some more violent/permanent pruning to keep things under control since the plant will be able to recover in vegetative growth prior to the transition to a flowering light cycle. If all of that is Greek to you, jump into some of the stickies in the growing forums here...
Space is a large concern for me. especially now that I know that the shelves aren't (easily) removable, to grow on both sides of the closet, the lights would have to remain hanging from the clothes rods and still stay far enough away from the top canopy. Last grow, we had one of the plants get to almost 4 feet, and there was not enough head room to use the HPS without burning them. Though i suppose hanging the lights from the ceiling and growing in a long vertical row is always an option. Use both specs throughout the whole grow, with more warm/hps on one side to boost the flowering, no?
-I would want to start with 1 or 2 feminized seeds at first, simply to learn how to grow cannabis and guarantee I got a female plant that produced bud. I would transition to non-feminized seeds as soon as I felt I could complete a healthy grow from seed to harvest, simply to learn how to identify male plants, sexual maturity, etc. This will be an asset in your growing life since you will at some point either want to breed or just make seeds for future use. It happens to the best of us, best to learn traditional cannabis gender identification and not simply rely on feminized seeds. That being said, there's nothing wrong with starting with some fems just to guarantee your effort is rewarded...
The first grow was from bagseed for that exact reason. Learning. I took a bunch of shit on other sites for growing bag seed, but i figured why waste money buying seeds when i have no idea what the hell im doing. By some random fate of god, from 3 seeds germed, 2 ended up being female. I had a pretty good idea of the strains i found the seed in, and a pretty good idea of the 2 that i had. ( Im actually 99% that one was a super auto, but thats another story lol. )
This time around we did order seeds so we actually knew what we were growing, lol, and decided to go with autos. Right now I already have 2 plants, and one waiting to break soil. All three are feminized. We're (my boyfriend and I live, and, in turn grow together) still really new to this; it's only the second grow, it'll be the first with autoflowers. We made a lot of noob mistakes and oops'es the last go round, and from those mistakes, we learned. One thing I learned, is part of a good end product is having a good room set up. Before the new bebes get any bigger/older, i've looked to the fine folks of AFN, to help me continue learning and improve on my end product
-Humidity is hard to increase in a closet made out of plaster/drywall. I'd recommend either lining the room with panda plastic or some heavy duty mylar. If you run a central AC system, it will likely remove a good amount of water from the air, depending where you are. Plants need between 30-60% humidity to grow properly, depending on the genetic background of the strain you select. My area has virtually no humidity during the winter months and the summer is nice and mellow, so for me I usually have to add humidity into the space. I would not want to do that in a room that would eventually melt into drywall mud...60%+ is my goal during veg and then down to around 50% during flower, that means I run a baby humidifier wide open with the lights on.
ugh. i dont even want to think about the humidity in that closet, lol Thats been a large issue from the very beginning. We do have a cool mist humidifier in there now that goes to 60% (our other one broke), and I dont think I could put the humidifier IN the pot, and get it up to 60%. Im lucky if I can get it to 32% when i water. Its extremely unfortunate lol. Theres also central AC. Seems like you and I have similar climates, though, our summer months tend to get quite humid.
thank you!!
I knowww. I dont have my nutes in there though, and theres a connecting bathroom right off of the room the closets in, so we fill and let the gasses dissipate there. Its awful convenient lol. But its a good idea letting it sit in the grow room to add humidity.
Hi bro,
I would use a tent grow-tent from 4 by 4 or 3 by 3!
If your going to use 250w hps ( 50W/ square feet) = 5 = 2,2 by 2,2 feet!
So I recommend depending on the size a bigger light!
Grow-tents are easier to use, can be moved, the dirt stays inside, optimal reflection, better to control inside atmosphere, ducting possibility's!
I recommend using trusted leds, you can combine both light sources!
How much do you want to yield?
:Sharing One:
I would use a tent grow-tent from 4 by 4 or 3 by 3!
If your going to use 250w hps ( 50W/ square feet) = 5 = 2,2 by 2,2 feet!
So I recommend depending on the size a bigger light!
Grow-tents are easier to use, can be moved, the dirt stays inside, optimal reflection, better to control inside atmosphere, ducting possibility's!
I recommend using trusted leds, you can combine both light sources!
How much do you want to yield?
:Sharing One:
A small air pump and air stone from a fish store in that same bucket of water will increase the humidity it offers even more than just having it sit there, plus bubbling the water speeds the release of water treatment chemicals.
As far as lighting goes, I would re-mount the clothes racks as high in the room as you can, or just remove them entirely and find a mounting point in the ceiling to hang a hook or two. You can run ropes or adjustable chains from the hook down to your light.
I would set up the back right hand side of the closet as my flowering/bloom area, expecting to have 2 small or 1 large plant at a time in there, possibly more if you run smallish containers. I'd make it about 2'x3' if you have that kind of room, and I'd tape it off in a light/air tight way with panda plastic, basically so I could preserve light integrity in 12/12 and still have the closet light on. The rest of the closet I'd use as a "lung room" to essentially dial in my temp/humidity. Alternatively, you could run the intake from outside the closet into the panda plastic flowering area, then suction the used air through a carbon filter, the whole space will be a lot cooler and you won't have to cut any holes. You could cut holes if you wanted...and were really crafty...and bought internal clothes dryer vent duct covers and basically ran your ventilation like you were installing a new dryer. But that's like the advanced level "permanent" setup. At least you can justify it by saying you had a "tenant" who had their own clothes dryer in the space. Or whatever. Pretty high right now, lol.
I would then use the non-flowering area to get seedlings started, basically just keep them under 20/4 light cycle outside the 12/12 area and rotate them in when they're ready to go into flower. If you have 2 seedlings and 2 flowering plants in a space like that, at any given time (total of 4 plants) you can be perpetual with about an ounce on hand. 6 is a better setup, 3 in flower 3 in veg, but 3 plants in medium-large containers gets crowded. I'd rather have 2 nice size flowering plants that were about 4-6 weeks apart...that gives me 3 ounces every 6 weeks, which is PLENTY of weed, lol that's smoking 1/2oz a week. That's assuming you run essentially the same strain, which if you really wanted to run a clone operation, you could dial everything in and get your yields WAY up.
You could have 2 strains you run, a heavy indica for pain and a party strain like a hybrid or a sativa, or something more challenging like a haze or an heirloom landrace. Anyway...you grow a seed and make 2 clones, then put the mother into flower. As the clones establish, the mother matures and ripens. By the time she's ready to come out of the flowering room, the clones are full size ready to go into the flowering room (8 week strain, theoretically). You keep doing this for a few months and you'll be up to your eyeballs in bud, because each time you put a clone into flower, you take 2 clones from her and repeat the cycle. By the 3rd grow with that clone, you'll know EXACTLY how to get the perfect herb out of her, you'll be as they say "dialed in."
You could have a clone of 2 strains running and basically be perpetual AND have perfectly dialed in bud AND have the ability to run some autoflowers in any leftover space the photo period strains didn't use. But that's just my little stoner/systems engineer fantasy!
As far as lighting goes, I would re-mount the clothes racks as high in the room as you can, or just remove them entirely and find a mounting point in the ceiling to hang a hook or two. You can run ropes or adjustable chains from the hook down to your light.
I would set up the back right hand side of the closet as my flowering/bloom area, expecting to have 2 small or 1 large plant at a time in there, possibly more if you run smallish containers. I'd make it about 2'x3' if you have that kind of room, and I'd tape it off in a light/air tight way with panda plastic, basically so I could preserve light integrity in 12/12 and still have the closet light on. The rest of the closet I'd use as a "lung room" to essentially dial in my temp/humidity. Alternatively, you could run the intake from outside the closet into the panda plastic flowering area, then suction the used air through a carbon filter, the whole space will be a lot cooler and you won't have to cut any holes. You could cut holes if you wanted...and were really crafty...and bought internal clothes dryer vent duct covers and basically ran your ventilation like you were installing a new dryer. But that's like the advanced level "permanent" setup. At least you can justify it by saying you had a "tenant" who had their own clothes dryer in the space. Or whatever. Pretty high right now, lol.
I would then use the non-flowering area to get seedlings started, basically just keep them under 20/4 light cycle outside the 12/12 area and rotate them in when they're ready to go into flower. If you have 2 seedlings and 2 flowering plants in a space like that, at any given time (total of 4 plants) you can be perpetual with about an ounce on hand. 6 is a better setup, 3 in flower 3 in veg, but 3 plants in medium-large containers gets crowded. I'd rather have 2 nice size flowering plants that were about 4-6 weeks apart...that gives me 3 ounces every 6 weeks, which is PLENTY of weed, lol that's smoking 1/2oz a week. That's assuming you run essentially the same strain, which if you really wanted to run a clone operation, you could dial everything in and get your yields WAY up.
You could have 2 strains you run, a heavy indica for pain and a party strain like a hybrid or a sativa, or something more challenging like a haze or an heirloom landrace. Anyway...you grow a seed and make 2 clones, then put the mother into flower. As the clones establish, the mother matures and ripens. By the time she's ready to come out of the flowering room, the clones are full size ready to go into the flowering room (8 week strain, theoretically). You keep doing this for a few months and you'll be up to your eyeballs in bud, because each time you put a clone into flower, you take 2 clones from her and repeat the cycle. By the 3rd grow with that clone, you'll know EXACTLY how to get the perfect herb out of her, you'll be as they say "dialed in."
You could have a clone of 2 strains running and basically be perpetual AND have perfectly dialed in bud AND have the ability to run some autoflowers in any leftover space the photo period strains didn't use. But that's just my little stoner/systems engineer fantasy!
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