Grow Mediums Pythium outbreak + Worm casting tea treatment

[Maarvyy]

Im unsure as what to do next ...

I can try put the plants with some roots left in to coco . Not sure what this would achive apart from bieng out of the DWC .

I can keep faith in the tea , although it dosent seem to do shit atm . Im tempted to submerge the plants roots in the next brew for some time once its finished .

The rubermaid Ill flush , I can ress change every day with regular tap water np that should keep that in check untill i can harvest next week and salvage something .

 

[Corgy]

Don't give up.....we're all....ermmmm.......rooting for ya

 

[Son of Hobbes]

I just treated a nasty outbreak of pythium and snot in my first time (ever) DWC bucket using 29% H202 and Physan 20; it took a few treatments but I have a massive amount of bone white, fresh roots sitting underneath the old nasty, so I know it works.

What are your rez temps? That's a MASSIVE key in this battle in my opinion.

 

[Maarvyy]

rez temps are 65 - 70 max , room temps 62 night - 75 day .

Changed rez's again today hosed down all roots thouroughly with tap water ( they at least look a little better now ) . I didnt pre bubble the water for this res change , insead opting to use it straight out of the tap for this one time knowing the chlorine in the uk tap water isnt enough to negetivley affect anything but bacteria . I realise this resets the first tea I Gave already but the pythium came on so strong over night after the tea I didnt see that as a contributing factor .

The rubbermaid is flushing on plain PH water

Other buckets on low str base food and cal mag only . Ive noticed as per plant 2 , as soon as I've introduced the flowering feed + carbload the pythium makes its self know, now I'm not saying for a seccond carboload is the culprit but pythium really loves that stuff it seems . I suspect if I haden't introduced it in to my feed recently i would have gone through the whole grow with out ever noticing anything .

I'm sticking with the tea and holding my patience for the next brew to make sure its as good as it possibly can be , simply because I dont want to throw more cash at plants I've basicly lost hope for , plus some are so far gone I doubt they could take the agressive treatment of peroxide .

 

[Corgy]

I just treated a nasty outbreak of pythium and snot in my first time (ever) DWC bucket using 29% H202 and Physan 20; it took a few treatments but I have a massive amount of bone white, fresh roots sitting underneath the old nasty, so I know it works.

What are your rez temps? That's a MASSIVE key in this battle in my opinion.

How did you get hold of 29% H202, and what was the concentration in the solution?

I've been trying to get 30@ H202, but I don't know anyone with a CVE No. that has a reason to use it commercially, and nobody seems willing to sell it without a CVE No.... Doggone it.

@Maarvyy, good to hear that you see some progress and everything may not be lost. I hope you win the battle.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

How did you get hold of 29% H202, and what was the concentration in the solution?

I've been trying to get 30@ H202, but I don't know anyone with a CVE No. that has a reason to use it commercially, and nobody seems willing to sell it without a CVE No.... Doggone it.

@Maarvyy, good to hear that you see some progress and everything may not be lost. I hope you win the battle.

Do you have access to Amazon? I bought a gallon of it though there with no hassles, no questions. I had never worked with it before; didn't put gloves on. Was careful anyway (not knowing the danger) and did what I had to do with it. Put the little cap down that I was pouring with and a drop got on my finger. Ohhhhhhhhhhh mannnnnnnnnnn. Burning burning burning Wear gloves with that stuff man. Like acid to your skin. Turned it pure white and burned for a good 20 minutes. Could cause some serious skin damage if you aren't careful.

But that didn't stop me from putting it in a misting spray bottle and going after my pyth roots with it lol! Nebulized H202 seems to work alright; read some conflicting things about spraying it directly on the roots but man it definitely eats away some nasties.

I've just started playing with beneficials in one of my buckets; that's a whole different animal altogether it looks like. One or the other.

The Physan 20 is an algaecide/fungicide/bactercide/virucide. Google it, you'll find a mix of reviews on whether you should use it with Canna, but I think I put maybe a 1/4 or 1/2 of 1 mL into a 4 gallon rez and that was it. In 24 hours I watched the slime in the bucket dissolve. It's incredibly strong; I'll probably have this bottle for a LOOOOONG time (at least, I better have this bottle for a long time. If not, someone slap me and tell me to get my shit together )

Maarvyy, let me see if I can get DWCocha in here, he's our resident DWC expert. He'd be able to advise you best I'm sure; this is all new territory to me. He suggested the tea method as well when I first approached him (I just had the stuff already on order, so figured I'd try it.) For me, my rez temps were a large part of the problem. Fixed those, fixed a LOT of the problems. So hopefully we get this nailed out and you'll walk away with something still

 

[Maarvyy]

Thanks Hobbes .

After the initial tea they didnt look much better off , but after I rez changed and gave them a gentle wash they looked fairly repectable , at least a way better than the last pics i posted .

Its at least interesting .... silver linings n all

 

[Maarvyy]

Tea 2 , here we go .

So this morning things look considerably better even before the application of TEA 2 , and while theres some small amounts of foam formed in the corners of a few rez's the roots look rather clean and snot free and a stark improvement over yesterdays pic's . Tea 2 was applied after the following pics were taken 1 litre though each netpot + misted using a spray bottle thoughout the rez's and root balls, with enough leftover for tomorrows treatment too ( yay) .

Needless to say I'm quite pleased with what I've seen this morning , but don't take my word for it have a look and judge for yourself's .

Heres plant 1 which in yesterdays post I was almost beyond hope . Looking rather spiffy in comparison today .

And now plant 2 , almost like nothing ever happened . you can still see a tiny bit of foam still lurking here however .

And the rubbermaid , again looking way better than yesterday . But with a touch of foam still lurking in the right of the frame

And for the hell of it here's Brew 2 after 30 odd hours in the making
20l pre bubbled water
5 cups of worm shit
1tbs seaweed extract
2 tbs black strap molasses

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Hey Maarvyy, I spoke with DWCocha, our main Hydro mod about your buckets and he suggested the tea method for what you have going on (using the stickies on here.) So it sounds like you're on the right path with your setup there; keep us posted!

 

[Qman1515]

How did you get hold of 29% H202, and what was the concentration in the solution?

I've been trying to get 30@ H202, but I don't know anyone with a CVE No. that has a reason to use it commercially, and nobody seems willing to sell it without a CVE No.... Doggone it.

@Maarvyy, good to hear that you see some progress and everything may not be lost. I hope you win the battle.

What is a CVE. I just picked mine up at the local garden store.