Live Stoner Chat Q for AFN? new land owner taxes on greenhouse

[mallo]

I can answer this with absolute certainty my friend you forgot to call me. Ill give you a call here in a sec.

 

[oldster]

I agree with EOF,

We live in the country and I can tell you that people are more aware of what the neighbors are doing then in the city in particular if you are "new" (we are still new after over 10 years). No trespassing signs are a big red flag. Everyone knows everyone else and what they are up to. Be friendly, get to know folks and they will respect your privacy. I can shoot problem raccoons out my back door in the middle of the night and no one gives it a thought. If you are secretive and unfriendly people will assume you are hiding something IMHO.

 

[sir grow alot]

Thanks to everyone for the responses!! MUCHO GRACIS!!!!!!

I can answer this with absolute certainty my friend you forgot to call me. Ill give you a call here in a sec.

MMALLLOOO not sure if you made this message before or after we talked about you talking to him sooo if you see this and we haven't talked since....call me :thank:

I assume you guys are in the US. Here in the UK we don't need any permission to build a greenhouse (or pay any tax/duty) Unless its a huge commercial type structure.
If anyone wanted to look at or appraise my greenhouse they would get short shrift. ie. told to feck off! Must be a whole different ball game over there. eP.

Yup US....and im hoping im wrong and its the same as the UK and I don't have to pay taxes on a small enough structure.

Depending on where you live you may well need a building permit. I would go to the county building department, tell them what you are thinking about and find out what all would be required. In my opinion doing things above board is much less likely to raise suspicions then the building it and find out you some sort of code violation. That way once you are done there no reason for anyone to come around. If you live somewhere that gets cold enough that you have to heat it at times the increase in utility costs won't raise any red flags. Just my opinion

Im currently building an earthbag house so I looked into permits and none are required for my area, so that's good....

:roflcry: Property tax institute haha.

Anyway, permanent structures require building permits, and they carry tax implications along with them (Nope, not credits or deductions lol).

You can avoid the required permits, and tax implications by building a greenhouse that would qualify as a temporary structure.

My advice would be to build a hoophouse out of PVC to use this year, and possibly next. It would be functional, and bypass the beaurocratic nonsense for the time being. Then in a year or two build a killer greenhouse out of Solexx that will stand the test of time.

Throw up no trespassing signs, and put up a shitty little gate at the vehicular access point to your property. Throw a chain on it. This is plenty of deterrent for unwanted visitors. Beaurocrats don't have the balls to ignore the 'Implications' of continuing further without express permission. If anybody did come by, I'm sure they would turn around and schedule an appointment with you. They aren't trying to get shot by some potentially dangerous recluse in the woods for a property evaluation.

I am in the planning and preparatory stages of a similar off grid project, and have a degree in Accounting. This is how I would, and AM handling my personal situation, in an unfriendly state.

Another option is to scatter your plants on your property, using natural camoflage and tall grass, combine with LST to keep the plants profile low to the ground. Some companion planting could also improve stealth. The benefits of guerilla stealth growing, minus the neglect associated with growing in a remote location.

PS how is the earthbag project coming along?

lol yea Skatter again forgive my ignorance ....lol........ I grew on the property this way last summer with the camo and LST but wanna avoid the trouble and fear of fly overs at all.
I like the idea of the Temp structure and am going to look into and ensure I build it to meet those requirements.
Here is a link to the hoop house im building...temp structure or not??http://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/~/media/39A3CC910E704F6A8D9528B57A1EC85C.ashx

earthbag project is going great thanks for asking...just finished my rough plumbing last night and almost done with the rubble foundation trench so I can istall the French drain, lay rock and start bulding some walls!!! should be layin bags by next weekend.

Only issue you'll have if you throw up chains n a fence,the whole nine is that is draws attention.As far as everyone knows(imho ofcourse)if your 100% legal,grown in it and no worries anywhere.The next season its just about a free for all.Within limits ofcourse.These are the steps ive taken and I have close to zero visitors,no snooping,nothing.I think the only guy from the county was the meter reader dude.So keep that in mind too if you have a box out there too.UPS deleveries,think of anyone that might come by for any reason and tthink on where they'll be at and have to walk to.Line of site can at times be very critical.All in the planning my good man.And if I recall ,if you want you propery appraised after the fact,just have it done the first year so it'll all settle within the paperwork side.Some,not all will go on things as basic as building size.perm strucure or not.Things like that,but dont rely on tthatt though.Just have all your ducks in a row as it were.Ive been growing in and on my property for a few years now.No greenhouse,but i may be setting up an 8X12X8 temp greenhouse myself for veggies and things too.Best of luck dude.

I agree with EOF,

We live in the country and I can tell you that people are more aware of what the neighbors are doing then in the city in particular if you are "new" (we are still new after over 10 years). No trespassing signs are a big red flag. Everyone knows everyone else and what they are up to. Be friendly, get to know folks and they will respect your privacy. I can shoot problem raccoons out my back door in the middle of the night and no one gives it a thought. If you are secretive and unfriendly people will assume you are hiding something IMHO.

So real quick fyi for ya fellas my fault for not explaning properly...im the new owner of the property but just inherited it from my father and we have been here for 18 years, 8 of which have been permanent residence so WE aren't new to the neighbors im just the new name on the deed :Sharing One:

I have the no trespassing signs and a nice red metal gate with chain and lock that has been there for years....I cant appreciate the help and responses enough!!!!!:hug:you guys all rock,

much love FAM!!!!:grat:

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Why don't you cut out the guess work and just call your local county tax assessor office and ask them? There's an office in every county and their job is to answer questions like the one you are asking. You can also type in your state and the words "property tax," and it should bring up a portal listing of all the counties in your state and the appropriate phone numbers to call.

Tell them what you're building, ask if it requires a building permit, and ask if you need a tax reassessment after the structure is built. Then there's no guess work.

:dunno:

 

[pop22]

Ill be building a greenhouse this year. I live in a very rural area and am a new land owner so im not clear on this. I know I will have to pay property taxes on the greenhouse since it will be for self uses purposes. 18'Wx8'Tx20'L greenhouse.I plan to primarily use it for veggies but would like to have a few of our preferred plants in there too.

So the Q is once I construct it will I need to worry about the local tax appraiser coming out to the property to visually inspect it? will they just do fly overs? or do I just send in the paper work to get it added to the taxable property "list" for my land and they don't even come out at all?

I cant find the answer on the web and am to paranoid to call and ask the property tax institute(or whatever it is, forgive my ignorance).

I wonder if im good to plant my girls right away or am I going to get a surprise visit????:dunno:


any help especially from personal experience is GREATLY APPRECIATED FAM!!!!

You need to question your town clerk about this. Do you have zoning there? If so, do you need a building permit for the greenhouse? If so, then yes, they will definitely want to inspect it when its done, to be sure it meets code.

 

[mallo]

No worries guys its all taken care of. I could answer his questions about where he lives with certainty, I have a bit of knowledge about property in SGA's area. Cheers fellas!

 

[sir grow alot]

Why don't you cut out the guess work and just call your local county tax assessor office and ask them? There's an office in every county and their job is to answer questions like the one you are asking. You can also type in your state and the words "property tax," and it should bring up a portal listing of all the counties in your state and the appropriate phone numbers to call.

Tell them what you're building, ask if it requires a building permit, and ask if you need a tax reassessment after the structure is built. Then there's no guess work.

:dunno:

Thanks for responding, mainly paranoia...overly paranoid caused by where I live and to bring it to the FAM here so others can learn from the responses gained incase they have the same Q of mind

You need to question your town clerk about this. Do you have zoning there? If so, do you need a building permit for the greenhouse? If so, then yes, they will definitely want to inspect it when its done, to be sure it meets code.

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Thanks brotha

No worries guys its all taken care of. I could answer his questions about where he lives with certainty, I have a bit of knowledge about property in SGA's area. Cheers fellas!

ALL clear now everyone be safe...thanks Mallo