Indoor Rebel's Top Strains Chosen By AFN! You wanted it! You got it!

OK I just went in there and they are NOT GONE!!! So WTF do I do NOW??

:mad: :mad: :mad::mad: Dude I'm so heated right now I got steam coming out of my damn ears... Now where's the White Rhino... I need an instant lobotomy before I pop a f*cking blood vessel...

So can anyone tell me what to do now??? :face:
 
Ahh man, I know you're feelin' it homie, but 1 single salvo of fire wll not win this war, alas,... If you see only a few, it's possible you've flushed some out of hiding, which is a good sign; remember, these fuckers are ninjas, highly mobile. To give some perspective, at the orchid nursery we were free to use full atomics, often combos of them, with the turbo-death-mist fan (treats the entire 100' greenhouse)and even then after a week we may see a hot spot here and there, and have to treat locally. (Sorry I didn't bring this up before, bro) You, Grasshoppah, or should I say Grassmokah, are going to have to Ninja them back by frequently scanning for stragglers. Also, the true source of the thrips hasn't been confirmed yet, right? If there's any of the suspect soil left to inspect, up close with a magnifier, do so... Also, did you make that alcohol/soap spray to treat the general area? the insect. soap isn't the best for this, as it makes a residual mess everywhere, and unless the bugs get a proper soak of it, they may not die... with the alcohol soln. made with mild soap as descibed, and a small spritzer bottle (one of those mini pump types that are 2-4 ozs), you can sniper shoot where you see them on the plant; this soln. is way harsher on the bugs than soap alone. The soil soaking was done with the insect. soap? Hmmmm, I suspect that the soil can dilute and spread out the soln. enough that it may not coat the bugs enough to kill them; please ask around about the pyrethrin powder for the soil, assuming it's the source.... Some of our troubles with these bugs was sourced to the other greenhouses next to ours- thanks neighbor!! So, keep other proximity sources in mind too, Chief...It's quite possible to kill nearly all of them, only to have more move in later, from elsewhere.... I worry about repeated applications of the insect. soap and the neem, burning leaves and root damage.... I wish I could tell you more from personal experience using these products, but I don't have much of it (again, ask around); I learned to use that alch. soln at work, and never went back. (the insect. soap is also a sufficant like the neem, BTW) Not to say you can't overdo it with the alch. soln. either, hence the mini sprayer to keep volumes and coverage area down. (of couse, don't treat the soil with the alch. soln spray)... Brother, try not to grind too hard on this; it sounds like the infestation wasn't severe to begin with (uh, right?), so that will go a long way toward winning the war. Those sticky paper things, often used to trap gnats, whiteflys, etc., will trap the occasional hapless thrip too, and aid in spotting what you don't actually lay eyes on, just to assess what kinda numbers remain. Put'm at the base of the soil, near entryways/windows, other suspect areas and see what gets bagged. They're cheap, too! They're used industry-wide in agriculture, sometimes just to trap samples of bug populations simply to see what's around, good, bad, or indifferent; consider it just one more tool in your belt... Also, read the labeling about retreating, maybe spray the plants down with water only to reduce residue build-up that may lead to burning...then retreat. Hmm what else, did I mention asking around? (lol) Send a PM to Muddy-san, since nobody else has chimed in about the pyrethrin, and he'll have good advise and/or refer to others as well, (and refer him to this part of the thread, too).... meantime, keep ninjing, mon amie! :toke: Oh, and thanks for the input about the seeds,.... I find it disturbing that you were getting such high %males out of feminized seeds from stitch,....
 
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damn bud hope you get it figured out :smokebuds:
 
Hey Rebel - How goes it? I have a little Zen thought for you,...: what is sound of me kicking myself in the ass..... :face: I overlooked an appendix section in my MMJ handbook on this... So, here's a quick and dirty update: The products you have now are recommended, and so is pyrethrum (powder or spray).... I also forgot to mention specifically that thrip adults can fly, poorly, but they can jump well..... eggs are laid on the plant itself, larvae feed, then drop down onto the soil to pupate; pyrth. powder and/or diatomaceous earth can be dusted on the surface to create a deadly barrier ( d-earth is literally the micro-equivalent of us crawling over large jagged glass pieces); this will also control gnats..... the sticky cards colored yellow or blue attract them!...... I figure you've kicked some serious ass already on the main population, now it's about keeping watch out for stragglers and new arrivals; that soil barrier is the ticket to longer term prevention by snuffing out the next generation before they mature. -HahahHa :finger: you vermin :hump: in your face!- Give us an update on what you're seeing, mate!
 
AFN... Meet Sister Discipline!

. Also, the true source of the thrips hasn't been confirmed yet, right? I find it disturbing that you were getting such high %males out of feminized seeds from stitch,....

Hey Waira. Thanks my friend... I would bet anything it's the promix. Never had thrips before ever... even with Fox Farms OF or HF... and they appeared literally days after the first babies were up and out. I found it disturbing too... as my money was being wasted left and right. Until I discovered the very high Fem rates in the Regular beans so... Since they have been outstanding in giving me very high female to male ratio I just take it as a "breaking even" there. Well, this Sour Diesel Haze is a FEM so we'll see in a week or two if it's a male or not. I've been warned already that a SDH Fem was a straight up male and that was within the last month so... I won't be surprised if it has balls, and since it's growing so damn fast also has me skeptical... the males usually do that in early stages... So we'll keep an eye on "her" and see what pops out. Pistils or Sacs... What's your money ridin' on? LMAO

damn bud hope you get it figured out :smokebuds:

Thanks Bub. This is night #3 of Rebel's House of Execution... You stab 'em we slab 'em, you slay 'em we lay 'em, you kill 'em we chill 'em... LMAO and the Thrip pop is going down down down. Yesterday didn't see much improvement from day one but today I hardly saw any but on the babies... So since tonight's treatment I haven't seen any thus far. But I'm going 10 days on them straight to make sure... Soaped then Neemed.. Well, tonight... Fed, Soaped, then Neemed... I think I'm gonna do what you suggested to me earlier since Waira also brought it up... I may drop a thin layer of sand over the topsoil to stop their babies from getting up and out. :thumbs:

Hey Rebel - How goes it? I have a little Zen thought for you,...: what is sound of me kicking myself in the ass..... :face: I overlooked an appendix section in my MMJ handbook on this... So, here's a quick and dirty update: The products you have now are recommended, and so is pyrethrum (powder or spray).... I also forgot to mention specifically that thrip adults can fly, poorly, but they can jump well..... eggs are laid on the plant itself, larvae feed, then drop down onto the soil to pupate; pyrth. powder and/or diatomaceous earth can be dusted on the surface to create a deadly barrier ( d-earth is literally the micro-equivalent of us crawling over large jagged glass pieces); this will also control gnats..... the sticky cards colored yellow or blue attract them!...... I figure you've kicked some serious ass already on the main population, now it's about keeping watch out for stragglers and new arrivals; that soil barrier is the ticket to longer term prevention by snuffing out the next generation before they mature. -HahahHa :finger: you vermin :hump: in your face!- Give us an update on what you're seeing, mate!

Thanks for all that waira! Appreciate you takin' the time to post all that info. So far with the Insecticide Soap and Neem Oil I've cut their population dramatically down in 3 days. Another week of treatment and sand and we should be right to go forward!!! This thrip problem is putting off my next Photo Run... LOL So these little bastards are holding me up!!! I don't want to give them a new environment to thrive in and stir up more problems so until I know this problem is over I'm sticking with what I got at the moment...

And now for an Update!! If I wasn't bitching up a storm about these worthless creatures (thrips)... by the pictures I'm about to post, I don't think you'd ever know they have uninvited parasites in their personal space!!! :no: So see for yourself... Just for the record too... I don't think I've EVER had plants look this good at 4 weeks... or rather this mature...

First 5 are 4 weeks old... JH, APGUM, La Diva, Auto Kaya 47, & Magnum

Jock Horror (let me know if you guys think the top of her cola don't look right...)

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Auto Pineapplegum (she's giving off a sweet skunky smell. Her top cola head is like a magnet to my nose. She pulls me in every time.)
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La Diva (she was the shorty, now she's one of the biggest and most mature. She's workin' on a killer cola.)
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Auto Kaya 47 (this girl is huge for her age and she will also have a baseball bat cola)
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Magnum (she's still veggin' hardcore. She will be a big ol' bitch. 9 satellite colas so far...:D)
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These girls are about a week behind... I think... LOL I have to get back to ya on their ages...

Trans Siberian (so impressed with this girl... she's always so perky and happy! And let me tell you, she has been dubbed "Skunky Monkey". Soooo Skunky it's awesome!)
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Black Jack (she smells sweet and skunky too. :D)
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These girls in this group... Frost Dragons, Future 86, Auto Chocolate Skunk, Sugar Mango Ryder, and Sour Diesel Haze are 13 DaysOld. The Auto Cheese Candy is 5 Days old.

Frost Dragons #1 - #4
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Future 86 #1 - #4
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Auto Cheese Candy
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Sugar Mango Ryder
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Auto Chocolate Skunk
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Sour Diesel Haze
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We have enlisted the help of Sister Discipline to keep an eye out for thrips while I'm away from the garden... With her prominent Unibrow and Swift Pimp/Ruler Hand I think the kids are in good hands... hey sometimes you gotta call in the reinforcements!!! :D OK I've had way too much fun with that one :lol: Hell The Wife said it would be a killer strain name so now I know what name I will use to honor Lady Reb :crying: Was going to use Mountain Momma but... Sister Discipline it is!!
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Wow they look fkn awesome for 4 weeks my friend!
I demand you beat one around with a stick, no one man should own that amount of beauty.....

Do you give dirt farmin lessons?
Maybe you could learn me how to grow shit in dirt, if anyone could it would be you dude :bow:

Stunted Excellence
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Stunted!!! LOL well, if the Jock Horror turns out to be a cross dresser I'll film me whipping it around just for you! Then Im' sure one of my four legged furry f*cks will eat it LMAO You are way too kind my Brother!! Free Dirt Farmin' lessons to anyone who wants 'em!! If I can do this anyone can!! LOL Trust me!! LMAO!! I've been slacking on your thread... I apologize my friend. I'll get there in the next 24 hrs... I'm starting to get tired LOL so within the next rotation of the planet I'll get over to your thread!

Stunted Catch Up :help:
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Lookin gorgeous my brotha :buds: Now lets kill these little effers and get some bud action going :smokebuds:
 
Honorable Grassmokah :bow: Verily, the soil is the most likely suspect, but out of all the other sap-sucking vermin, their ninja skills are the best.... this is why I caution you about source ID; even if you're walking by landscaping or weeds on your merry way to the tent, and you've got your yellow and blue plaid golf pants on (ooo, sex-ay,...:dancer:), they can jump on you like fleas onto a dog! (LOL) I know I sound paranoid, but my experience with these little six-legged d-bags warrants me to share that paranoia! One horror story at the nursery involved an extremely rare/nonreplacable $8000+ client orchid that had finally bloomed after 5 years of sweating it; we moved it to the reception area, called the client to come on down (they were practically touching themselves with excitement), and overnight the flowers were hammered (full of translucent and pale brown zit-spots), leaving us with a giant steaming bag of apologies to present to the client,... mmmm I can't tell you what a stellar brownie-snacking moment
that was... LMAO! The source: a box of incoming client plants 5' away.... So, now you know why my sphincter winks when I here 'thrips'!! Sand may not work, brother,... if an adult is sizable at 1mm, imagine how small the larvae are,.. they might be able to wriggle through the micro-gaps between the grains and reach soil, and a thicker layer of sand will a) obscure your view of the soil when assessing moisture levels, and b) hold too much moisture in, inviting the Rot Fairy to come wipe her butt on the plant, and c) when you water, sand will get sloshed aside, prompting you to even it out, every time... It sounds like you're doing a fine job of eradication, and the plants are clearly doing brilliantly (as are you, mon amie), but if you continue to see vermin I strongly advise that diatm.-earth and/or pyrethrum barrier,... sticky cards too. :smoke: Oh, no sign of leaf burn from multi-treatments I take? Just be oh-so careful..... About the Stitch seeds, I wonder if there was some mix-up during processing/packaging that ended up with reg's being switched fem'ed, hence your your unfortunate results... What's this about the SDH again? Are they notorious for 'male-ing' out despite being fem'ed? Or is it suspect because of it's rapid growth? ...... I dig the variety grow you've got going!! Daaaamn :pimp:, I thought I was an ankle-hoisting slut for this :brow: I may have to move next door just to mooch samples!:smokebuds:
All these pics have me nine kinds of fired up about my grow! I peeked at the seeds today, and the majority have cracked; some may even go in soil by tommorow:dance2:
Really really Grassmokah, you're a worthy grow-watch here! And your ninja awarenss jutsu on spotting those vermin early is why you'll win... Aphids, mealy bugs, even scale, no other d-bug invasion warrants the term 'war' more than thrips...It's far easier when one can apply atomics, sadly we don't have that option... Keep that sphincter winkin' Rebel!! :crying: <--- and that goes double for Sister Discipline!! Where did you get that unit from?! That-is-comedy!! It's a pleasure...:eye:
 
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Hey Reb you sure have a house full of lovely ladies bro. Looks like your going to have some monster buds in the near future. :bong:
 
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