Harvest & Curing Removing fan leaves during flush???

[gbd]

remember , hightimes will publish ANYTHING good or bad , i prove over and over why leaves need to be kept right until the end , if you dont keep them you will never see the final growth explosion , bud/sugar leaves contribute a small fraction of photosynthesis , an extremely small fraction

[video=youtube;xYq7CuVpAeo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo[/video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYq7CuVpAeo

peace

b0b, you always say you've proved this. Where is this proof? What was your test or experiment that made you 100% certain about this? I understand the benefits of leaving them, but removing them seems like it would have it's place as well.

 

[Epic Genetics]

b0b, you always say you've proved this. Where is this proof? What was your test or experiment that made you 100% certain about this? I understand the benefits of leaving them, but removing them seems like it would have it's place as well.

40 years of growing experience

removing them only promotes a stress induced ripening , which speeds up the finish causeing the plants to not get the advantage of the final growth explosion

you ask where is the proof , its all over , im not getting into it all again

nuff said

 

[briman]

Might be the case for photos, but any stresses will slow the plant down, no matter what phase its in!!! I do not tug leaves, I simply let them fall. In nature, there isn't anybody there to tug em off either!! I can't speak for bOb, but when a guy says "proven" or "proved", in my garden, that means I have tried both and came to a conclusion of a prefered method. Any tugging or stressing on an auto is a NO NO!! No offense to Jorge Cervantes, just because he says it, doesn't mean it works in my garden!! Don't believe everything you read and dont read everything you believe. Use what you can and scrap the rest. After all, it is your garden and up to you to tame the plants in your space!! People, these results don't lie!!!
seed goes in final container and I dont touch it!!! Not even turn my plants!!! 0 stresses= phat colas!!!

 

[Epic Genetics]

in a perfect grow certainly.but for my lil ole T-5 n stuff,lightly thinning em out as flower progresses ,I just have to politely disagree cuz I prove to me that works for me each time.done that leave em all on thing , n got less yeild lower down.soooo off comes some sun leaves here n there..yup!worked,they hardened up and got a lil nicer."AFN smoke out" so to me thats confusing and contradictory as a rule.as they say in the military,the book is a guide,not a how to book.use it as the best to your ability as to what you hold true.adapt to your grow environment,there are no hard n fast set rules on that short of dont strip your plants like some think.its a slow process.

i grew for 20 years with T-12's which are far worse then T-5's and i found the opposite

lower buds remain small due to nature , thats how plants grow , ive grown with vertical bulbs beside the lowers and upper buds , the lowers remained small , every branch proves this , the bud at the end is always bigger , the plant send the majority of goodness to the high spots and ends of each branch

peace

 

[gbd]

40 years of growing experience

removing them only promotes a stress induced ripening , which speeds up the finish causeing the plants to not get the advantage of the final growth explosion

you ask where is the proof , its all over , im not getting into it all again

nuff said

I suppose that's a scientific enough explanation. I've yet to remove leaves on an auto, I'm a tucker myself, but I'm open to the possibility that it could benefit the buds especially in lower intensity lighting situations. I guess until someone does side by side controlled grows and documents them for us it'll just be one persons word against another's. Cheers.

 

[gbd]

i grew for 20 years with T-12's which are far worse then T-5's and i found the opposite

lower buds remain small due to nature , thats how plants grow , ive grown with vertical bulbs beside the lowers and upper buds , the lowers remained small , every branch proves this , the bud at the end is always bigger , the plant send the majority of goodness to the high spots and ends of each branch

peace

I've done a staggered harvest, taking the top half of a plant then lowering the lights and allowing the undergrowth to continue for a week or more. The buds swelled noticeably. Do you think this was because of the lack of top half for nutrients to go to, the increase in light or possibly both? It was in a hydro setting during flush so the only food for the plant was it's own reserves.

 

[GoAuto6]

The OP asked the question, If he wants to challenge Epic that's fine it's his thread..but to any one trolling Epic well that's A violation of the rules....The mans killed more plants then you'v probably grown.............

Don't make me use this


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[Epic Genetics]

Might be the case for photos, but any stresses will slow the plant down, no matter what phase its in!!! I do not tug leaves, I simply let them fall. In nature, there isn't anybody there to tug em off either!! I can't speak for bOb, but when a guy says "proven" or "proved", in my garden, that means I have tried both and came to a conclusion of a prefered method. Any tugging or stressing on an auto is a NO NO!! No offense to Jorge Cervantes, just because he says it, doesn't mean it works in my garden!! Don't believe everything you read and dont read everything you believe. Use what you can and scrap the rest. After all, it is your garden and up to you to tame the plants in your space!! People, these results don't lie!!!
View attachment 364567seed goes in final container and I dont touch it!!! Not even turn my plants!!! 0 stresses= phat colas!!!

well said briman

when i said speeds up the finish it wasnt meant in a good way , it is a stress induced early death , and it causes the plant to miss a good amount of fattening up , lots of ppl wont agree with me , but thats because they have never seen that final growth explosion because plants tend to look ready before then , most newer growers just do not understand this and have never seen it , and imho if they dont start listening they never will

peace

 

[Epic Genetics]

I've done a staggered harvest, taking the top half of a plant then lowering the lights and allowing the undergrowth to continue for a week or more. The buds swelled noticeably. Do you think this was because of the lack of top half for nutrients to go to, the increase in light or possibly both? It was in a hydro setting during flush so the only food for the plant was it's own reserves.

i do that often enough , but i do notice it stalls the plant for a while before the lowers kick back in , many times i think to myself that if left alone the lowers would have swelled and finished in the same time , and just maybe the uppers might have also bulked up , but by then its always been too late cause id already chopped the tops

peace

 

[Epic Genetics]

I suppose that's a scientific enough explanation. I've yet to remove leaves on an auto, I'm a tucker myself, but I'm open to the possibility that it could benefit the buds especially in lower intensity lighting situations. I guess until someone does side by side controlled grows and documents them for us it'll just be one persons word against another's. Cheers.

tucking is the way to go

if you have the space give the side by side a try , ive done so many times , always come to the same conclusion , tucking is the way to go

peace