New Grower Round 2

[ska'd 4 life]

Yo wiley! I'd definately go with raising the light if you can buddy, try to encourage a little bit of stretch to space those nodes out a little bit just my looking good otherwise! and whoah! those elephant ears are HUGE! maybe you should give your wife some outdoor seeds and see what she can do with them lol!

 

[wileywilly53]

Day 20

well Ska'd 4 life, I did raise the light but not enough I guess, I need to raise it some more, and I just did a few minutes ago, I now have it about 6 inches above the top of the plant. But she sure is a BUSHY lil girl. I see some little circle or round spots on a couple leaves not all over but on a few. I am wondering if it could just be because my light WAS so close and MAYBE I splashed some water on them and it did that ? I looked in the hospital at some pics and Wilamina just doesn't seem to have ALL the symptoms of any illnesses. I think I will just keep a close eye on her for the next day or 2. Now for my real question. On my first grow my soil was just OF with some perlite added. from my first grow Squid and I found it to be LOW in the pH area so we added some lime. I had to get the very small pellet size lime, and I learned that it takes it time to dissolve. SO I started this grow by taking my OF, Perlite and I added about 1/4 cup lime and wet the soil and let it set for 9 days, I actually tested soil before I added the lime and it was in the high 4's and after nine days it was 6 range so I figured the lime was working and I could go ahead and sink the seed. I have to be honest I have been watering with 6.5 pH bubbled water since the beginning. But today is the first time since it popped above soil that I checked the run off. I had a half gallon of bubbled water with a pH of 7.6 I added 1 tsp of molasses, 1 tsp epsom salt, 30ml (2 tblsp) BB, and 5ml (1tsp) GB, I checked pH and heck it was dead on 6.5 pH so I used whole half gallon in the plant, it was a little to much water but not all that much to much if you know what I mean. Anyway 6.5 in - 6.0 out = .5 so 6.0 -.5 = 5.5 pH soil ? so My question is what the heck am I doing wrong on my soil ? Is anyone else using OF and having same issue, I will read some grows and see. Please feel free to let me know your 2 cents. Oh wise ones. I can put a link to my first grow if anyone thinks it would help. I did have some of the same issues towards the end of that first grow so this is kind of where my lesson ended and now I need to figure this out. Any help much appreciated.

 

[wileywilly53]

well so far so good. Wilamina seems to be just fine. The spots are still on the same couple of leaves but no others or no new spots that I can see. I will keep monitoring. She will probably need watering tomorrow, If anyone reads this and you have a suggestion to try to get my pH up in my soil, I am listening. I will see what it is tomorrow but if it still 5.5 I have to do something.

 

[wileywilly53]

LiL Help

Well maybe I need to post in the infirmary. I have several questions if anyone reads this and can help I am listening. and I follow directions real well.

First of all I know I have read that you can trim to much at one time, so I hope I did not trim to much. It was just nine leaves the few with the spots and some of the big fan leaves, is this OK ? heck looking at some of the GREAT STUNTED's work I should be able to trim it to look like whatever I want

second is all soil, I will try to explain what I think is wrong and maybe someone can confirm my suspicions or tell me I'm a dumbass and am way off.
As stated earlier in the thread I added some lime to soil 9 days before I put seed in, and seed was in the tiered cup even then for a few days. during those nine days I know the soil went from a pH of 4's to low 6's
This is where I think I got to impatient. I figured it was climbing so the lime was doing it's thing. I ASSumed (dreamed, wished) it would keep climbing well now so far I have just checked pH and I am way FRIKKON LOW I am going to guess that I did not add enough lime to start with, and if I would have added some more and made sure soil was correct 6.5 BEFORE I started, I would not have to type a book. so here are the embarrassing numbers 6.7 in 6.1 out
so that's 6.1 - .6 = soil pH 5.5 (well at least it is consistent with the first reading the other day) So my Question(s) are. How can I raise it ? it was maybe 2 teaspoons of lime to maybe a gallon and a half bucket of soil. Can I just sprinkle another teaspoon of lime on top of the soil or try to get it under some soil ? should I up root and mix some more lime in then re-plant ? Can I dissolve some of the pellets in water and add it that way ? Oh and the node spacing what's up with that ? I started with light maybe 2 or 3 inches above plant, wanted stretch so I raised the light to about 6 inches and it looks like this. So I just raised it to about a dang foot. thanks for listening.

 

[wileywilly53]

Still low soil pH

OK I am baffled, I came home everything looks good. I take half gallon bottled water 7.4 pH. added 30ml (2 tblsp) of GB and 10ml (2 tsp) of BB. checked pH it was 5.1. added pH up and brought it up to 6.9
SO 6.9 in 6.1 runoff = 6.1-.8 = SOIL Ph 5.3. Before all the flushing it was at 5.5 now it is down to 5.3 WTF, I am lost. The spots do not seem to be getting any worse. I am really a newbie BUT The overall plant health does not look bad does it ? she has shown her privates today, thought I saw them yesterday but it is def there today. I do Not know what (if anything to do) I will go back to my thread, I don't want to take up valuable time in the E.R.

 

[Nam80232]

No she doesn't look bad. Please bear with me here, I'm not trying to tell you what to do I'm just going to tell you what I did and you can do with it as you will. I had a problem, nitro tox. I use OF, and trio, Bloom Big, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom. Plus I flush with Sledgehammer. I know exactly what your going through, and it can be quite maddening. Don't lose heart. First I flushed with sledgehammer, 1tsp per gallon, ALWAYS ph your water after nutes or additives, which I read that you do. Then I went along my way adding 2/3 of the recommended doses on the schedule. But with every strain its a bit different. I've learned to trust my ladies and only read the ph of the water I'm feeding not the run off. Ok know I'm going to be shouted down for this but the results speak for them selfs. I've been thinking about going away from OF because of the ph runoff but I've gotten good results from it and they keep getting better. I just trust my ladies to tell me when something is wrong. hope it helps.

 

[A4]

Oh man, I don't want to be involved in this when someone says don't check runoff. :Stones slap: The caveat, I have read. Only read, mind you, that there are several people that swear runoff is jacked and you will never get a good reading. If you do what Nam said, make sure you are adding a little Cal/Mag as well just to be on the safe side. 5-10ml/gallon should be fine.

 

[A4]

Oh and BTW, your ladies are looking pretty good, although a bit too green. Don't forget, you are growing in a 1 gallon pot, it doesn't take too much nutes to overload that girl.

 

[Nam80232]

So I've emailed foxfarms about this, I don't want to give out bad advise so ill keep you posted with their response.

 

[wileywilly53]

OK guys I hear ya. And as I stated AFN has VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE peeps willing to help newby old stoners like myself. Your kindness will never be forgotten but hopefully passed on. Can't wait to see if they reply back Nam. I need to get some more calibration solution so I will go ahead and get some of the Sledgehammer also. A420er this being just my second grow I am going to be scared to just listen to the girl BUT and thats a big BUT, at this stage I am going to take my mentor SQUID's advice and smoke one and don't fret just relax and watch the show. I will keep feeding with proper pH and hope for the best. I will not grow in this soil again though. I am not going to start bashing though. A420er you mentioned something about setting around well the little feed store I bought this from does not sell very much of it, and the bag was rather dusty as if sitting on shelf awhile. It has also been sitting in my shed for 7 months now also. Next grow will be a different soil suggestion from AFN. One last question After flushing the way I did is it going to do anygood to flush with the sledgehammer when it comes in. Or as we stated just keep a very close eye on her with the help of my BUDS. No need for pic today she looks the same just a lil bigger LOL. and the spots have not worsened either. Maybe put some pics up tomorrow. Thanks a million guys
PS: saw the measurement on my pot it said 2.1 gal