Seedlings that wont grow and don't die??

[NugNoob]

Again, just throwing some ideas out Brother.... have you checked with your local water provider to make sure they aren't treating with chloramine? It's awful stuff, and unlike CL2 it wont gas off. Sitting for two days, bubbling, nothing touches it.

So what do you do if you end up having chloramine in your city water? Do you just go to distilled water?

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

So what do you do if you end up having chloramine in your city water? Do you just go to distilled water?

I think it takes a fairly expensive system to remove, so most growers I've talked to opt for distilled or regular bottled water. I'm not a fan of using distilled because of the low-to-no suspended solids (read no ppm). To get distilled to buffer properly, adding Ca and Mg is a must in my humble opinion. Even purified water has less than 10ppm, so if I'm ever forced to make a choice it will be basic bottled water.
Aquarium owners often have to do the same.

 

[NugNoob]

I think it takes a fairly expensive system to remove, so most growers I've talked to opt for distilled or regular bottled water. I'm not a fan of using distilled because of the low-to-no suspended solids (read no ppm). To get distilled to buffer properly, adding Ca and Mg is a must in my humble opinion. Even purified water has less than 10ppm, so if I'm ever forced to make a choice it will be basic bottled water.
Aquarium owners often have to do the same.

That's what I figured. My city water reads .39 with my TDS meter. I havent contacted the city water company but I guess I should to make sure I'm not screwing my seedlings over. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

That's what I figured. My city water reads .39 with my TDS meter. I havent contacted the city water company but I guess I should to make sure I'm not screwing my seedlings over. Thanks for the tip!

I'm pretty fortunate. Here in the high desert having a well (especially located near a canyon rim) is not something everyone has. It's also fairly hard water, but at least the city isn't dumping jugs of crap into or supply
Some of the happy facts about chloramine:

• Chloramine is a less effective disinfectant than chlorine. The World Health Organization (WHO, PDF 145 KB) says that "monochloramine is about 2,000 and 100,000 times less effective than free chlorine for the inactivation of E. Coli and rotaviruses, respectively."
• Chloramine does not dissipate easily compared to chlorine.
• Chloramine stays in the water distribution system longer than chlorine.
• Chloramine is difficult to remove.
• Chloramine cannot be removed by boiling, distilling, or by standing uncovered.
• Some disinfection byproducts of chloramine are even more toxic than those of chlorine, i.e. iodoacids.
• Chloramine vapors and its disinfection byproducts can accumulate in indoor air and concentrate in an enclosed area such as a shower stall, small bathroom, kitchen, or apartment ..

 

[Yeatster]

I'm pretty fortunate. Here in the high desert having a well (especially located near a canyon rim) is not something everyone has. It's also fairly hard water, but at least the city isn't dumping jugs of crap into or supply
Some of the happy facts about chloramine:

• Chloramine is a less effective disinfectant than chlorine. The World Health Organization (WHO, PDF 145 KB) says that "monochloramine is about 2,000 and 100,000 times less effective than free chlorine for the inactivation of E. Coli and rotaviruses, respectively."
• Chloramine does not dissipate easily compared to chlorine.
• Chloramine stays in the water distribution system longer than chlorine.
• Chloramine is difficult to remove.
• Chloramine cannot be removed by boiling, distilling, or by standing uncovered.
• Some disinfection byproducts of chloramine are even more toxic than those of chlorine, i.e. iodoacids.
• Chloramine vapors and its disinfection byproducts can accumulate in indoor air and concentrate in an enclosed area such as a shower stall, small bathroom, kitchen, or apartment ..

Great info to ponder.

 

[MrGermaine23]

I was thinking along those lines. I've quit spritzing seedlings and they seem better off.
I would keep the leaves dry and let transpiration do it's thing.

I'll give that a shot then Yeatster. I was spritzing them twice a day since I removed the humidifier.

 

[Yeatster]

I'm super interested to see how this pans out. Please keep us informed.

 

[Vlad The Inhaler]

I'll give that a shot then Yeatster. I was spritzing them twice a day since I removed the humidifier.

I've never sprayed a seedling ever and my plants almost always make it into the bloom stage before I kill them. [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

I'm def looking into that. Thank you

Thanks Green Genes

Hey guys, I just bought a new mister, this is the cheap $10.00 US version. Made by AGPTech. It puts out 400ml/hr pure h2o mist. It sits underwater, and you can rig or buy a float for it so it goes down with water level.

Like I said, I use these (usually two or three of them) in a 3x3x3 frame covered with plastic. I put the misters in a rubbermaid, or pot of some sort and they mist straight into the tent. You can cut a hole in a lid, and make a funnel for the mist to shoot out of it if you buy the more expensive ones. I use it for grafting, and tree cuttings with great success. It could easily be adapted to humidify a cannabis tent, or even a whole room.

It works by ultrasonic action, and will never harbor pests directly.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

I'm pretty fortunate. Here in the high desert having a well (especially located near a canyon rim) is not something everyone has. It's also fairly hard water, but at least the city isn't dumping jugs of crap into or supply
Some of the happy facts about chloramine:

• Chloramine is a less effective disinfectant than chlorine. The World Health Organization (WHO, PDF 145 KB) says that "monochloramine is about 2,000 and 100,000 times less effective than free chlorine for the inactivation of E. Coli and rotaviruses, respectively."
• Chloramine does not dissipate easily compared to chlorine.
• Chloramine stays in the water distribution system longer than chlorine.
• Chloramine is difficult to remove.
• Chloramine cannot be removed by boiling, distilling, or by standing uncovered.
• Some disinfection byproducts of chloramine are even more toxic than those of chlorine, i.e. iodoacids.
• Chloramine vapors and its disinfection byproducts can accumulate in indoor air and concentrate in an enclosed area such as a shower stall, small bathroom, kitchen, or apartment ..

I've read you can "neutralize" chloramines with ascorbic acid. They use it at treatment plants. I am not sure what they mean by neutralize though. I likely just adds a carbon or an electron or something.