Seedlings that wont grow and don't die??

[Renaissance Redneck]

I've never sprayed a seedling ever and my plants almost always make it into the bloom stage before I kill them. [emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

I've read you can "neutralize" chloramines with ascorbic acid. They use it at treatment plants. I am not sure what they mean by neutralize though. I likely just adds a carbon or an electron or something.

I've read the same thing on some sites, while others say it's only moderately effective. One issue seems to be it's ability to leach lead and other nasties, and the potential for toxic gasses to be released as it volitolizes.
I'm all for safe water, but I wish they'd do a little more research before adding chemicals to our supply

 

[Waira]

9 pages!! Mr.G', it's been a zoo in here lately, sorry I didn't chime in sooner; those seedling are being burned, and/or pH fried... all said here, my [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG] suspicion is the soil richness, and it being off pH from the goddamn Fuxfarms ass crack scrapings they call soil these days,...I personally have measured bag after bag after bag, in stores,using an Accurate 8 soil pH probe, all were in the low 5's ph! ...some folks get OK bags too, so it's likely a regional sourcing thing,.. that, and they're using urea to artificially age components, then undercooking it,... OF in general is too hot anyway,... so when seedlings struggle, right from the start, the soil is almost always the problem,... it's best to use a seedling mix, maybe blended some with reg. soil,.. but confirming the soil right out of the bag isn't shite is important, and you need the right tool for this, as mentioned above,... it's a simple trick, if you plant into final pots directly, to make a center pocket of mild starter soil using a smaller pot/large cup, no need to transplant later... just fill the pot part way, set in the smaller pot so top is level with the bigger pot, and fill in around it,..remove and voila'! -- instant pocket to fill with mild soil!
Only thing to do is transplant ASAP into better, pH measured soil,...maybe even flush the little pots first, but let them dry out some first before transplanting; wet soil tends to crumble which will FUBAR the roots!..

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

@Waira, glad to have big boots on the ground.
Best of luck. I couldn't even get an answer about meter calibration.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

9 pages!! Mr.G', it's been a zoo in here lately, sorry I didn't chime in sooner; those seedling are being burned, and/or pH fried... all said here, my [HASHTAG]#1[/HASHTAG] suspicion is the soil richness, and it being off pH from the goddamn Fuxfarms ass crack scrapings they call soil these days,...I personally have measured bag after bag after bag, in stores,using an Accurate 8 soil pH probe, all were in the low 5's ph! ...some folks get OK bags too, so it's likely a regional sourcing thing,.. that, and they're using urea to artificially age components, then undercooking it,... OF in general is too hot anyway,... so when seedlings struggle, right from the start, the soil is almost always the problem,... it's best to use a seedling mix, maybe blended some with reg. soil,.. but confirming the soil right out of the bag isn't shite is important, and you need the right tool for this, as mentioned above,... it's a simple trick, if you plant into final pots directly, to make a center pocket of mild starter soil using a smaller pot/large cup, no need to transplant later... just fill the pot part way, set in the smaller pot so top is level with the bigger pot, and fill in around it,..remove and voila'! -- instant pocket to fill with mild soil!
Only thing to do is transplant ASAP into better, pH measured soil,...maybe even flush the little pots first, but let them dry out some first before transplanting; wet soil tends to crumble which will FUBAR the roots!..

This just reinforces my mission to create all my own soil. I've been doing it for gardening for years. It's not that hard, the hardest part is putting together the shopping list for ingredients.

 

[NugNoob]

I'm pretty fortunate. Here in the high desert having a well (especially located near a canyon rim) is not something everyone has. It's also fairly hard water, but at least the city isn't dumping jugs of crap into or supply
Some of the happy facts about chloramine:

• Chloramine is a less effective disinfectant than chlorine. The World Health Organization (WHO, PDF 145 KB) says that "monochloramine is about 2,000 and 100,000 times less effective than free chlorine for the inactivation of E. Coli and rotaviruses, respectively."
• Chloramine does not dissipate easily compared to chlorine.
• Chloramine stays in the water distribution system longer than chlorine.
• Chloramine is difficult to remove.
• Chloramine cannot be removed by boiling, distilling, or by standing uncovered.
• Some disinfection byproducts of chloramine are even more toxic than those of chlorine, i.e. iodoacids.
• Chloramine vapors and its disinfection byproducts can accumulate in indoor air and concentrate in an enclosed area such as a shower stall, small bathroom, kitchen, or apartment ..

Got a water breakdown report for my area. Like I said my water was .39 with a TDS meter so I was happy about that. It looks like there is chorlide according to the report. No trace of Chloramine on the report so I think I'm safe with leaving water out to bubble.

Thanks for the detailed info on Chloramine!

 

[MrGermaine23]

Small update on the dying seedling that had miracle grow added after removing the humidifier. My humidity is down to 20 now but things are looking better. Thanks @Yeatster

Before 3/7 on day 16+

After on 3/15 Nice improvement for a seedling that hadn't grown in weeks

 

[Yeatster]

Nice Germaine! I recently added a towel wick to my tent and it helps a lot.

Not the prettiest but my RH went from low 20's to 56% today! I don't credit all that to the wick. Weather changes has made a difference also.

 

[MrGermaine23]

Just a quick pic update on the 2 runts. Still atleast another 30-40 days left on both .Theyre both still chugging along so it looks like I'll stillpull a little something off them after all. @Yeatster Thanks for all the help everyone !

 

[Yeatster]

Nice buddy. Still got some stretch to come. Let her be, she's gonna have one more growth spurt.

Good work buddy. And you're welcome...happy to help