New Grower Skatters perpetual DWC/Coco Grow Show

[SkatterBrayne]

I didnt want to put the frozen bottles inside the bucket because they are in dorect contact with the roots and i feel that would stunt them a bit. I have been putting them on the outside touchingthe buckets, but the bottles sweat and water got everywhere.

I considered cutting the net cups but the ones i have are super thick and i dont want to damage healthy roots.

I mean in theory I could just put the netcup over a bucket full of coco, right? Could it really stunt it? I feel like the roots would just grow down into the coco.

A few new roots are poking through the cup on my CJ that i thought was dead. leaf damage is pretty bad but i might as well see if she can recover just for the sake of expiramentation

What do you mean by tiered transolant? dropping roots into a hole and layering coco around it?

 

[Mrbubbles87]

I didnt want to put the frozen bottles inside the bucket because they are in dorect contact with the roots and i feel that would stunt them a bit. I have been putting them on the outside touchingthe buckets, but the bottles sweat and water got everywhere.

I considered cutting the net cups but the ones i have are super thick and i dont want to damage healthy roots.

I mean in theory I could just put the netcup over a bucket full of coco, right? Could it really stunt it? I feel like the roots would just grow down into the coco.

A few new roots are poking through the cup on my CJ that i thought was dead. leaf damage is pretty bad but i might as well see if she can recover just for the sake of expiramentation

See what you mean about the ice touching the roots. Maybe a way to attach it to the inside wall of the bucket or a way to make it sink to the bottom? I can see where putting them on the outside really wouldn't do much.

I would think you could put the basket right on top of soil or coco and as long as the roots are covered up it should be fine. Might want a more experienced member to comment though.

You'd be surprised what plants can come back from. I have corn that grows in odd places throughout my yard. Damn squirrels drop kernels everywhere. Every other week I mow right over it and 2 weeks later its almost a foot tall again lol

 

[SkatterBrayne]

Yeah these things are very resilient. Im not that worried about taking chances, im mostly trying to learn this first run anyway.Perhaps I will just try it for the sake of science

Maintaining multiple buckets is a huge pain in the ass. I may just throw one photoperiod in a bucket in my other tent and veg her out for 3-4 months.for a monster, but to juggle a few of them in the same tent is a bitch lol

 

[flat9]

Time to set up rdwc?

 

[chsmo]

Yeah these things are very resilient. Im not that worried about taking chances, im mostly trying to learn this first run anyway.Perhaps I will just try it for the sake of science

Maintaining multiple buckets is a huge pain in the ass. I may just throw one photoperiod in a bucket in my other tent and veg her out for 3-4 months.for a monster, but to juggle a few of them in the same tent is a bitch lol

Just gotta say that this type of attitude toward your grow is why I'm enjoying your journal so much! I have to remind myself that this first grow is more of a learning experience than anything else. If I end up making mistakes and killing the girls, it's not the end of the world. Just make notes and learn!

The studying over the last few months have scared me into underwatering and I'm sure under feeding as well in the past. Too much caution is as harmful as guns blazing type of grow, IMO.

BRAVO for you and your fearless grow style!

 

[SkatterBrayne]

Cant, perpetual grow so id have to set up a seperate one for each light which would be an equal pain.
Also since i will be growing a minimum of 3 seperate strains, i wilk need individual feed regimens.

If I had rdwc root rot wouldnt have been able to be contained.

I just threw my white widow into a bucket of coco.

I plan on adding my CJ onces the root slime is gone. Im worried about throwing it in there with that bacteria still running rampant.

 

[SkatterBrayne]

Just gotta say that this type of attitude toward your grow is why I'm enjoying your journal so much! I have to remind myself that this first grow is more of a learning experience than anything else. If I end up making mistakes and killing the girls, it's not the end of the world. Just make notes and learn!

The studying over the last few months have scared me into underwatering and I'm sure under feeding as well in the past. Too much caution is as harmful as guns blazing type of grow, IMO.

BRAVO for you and your fearless grow style!

Thanks man. Fear of failure is the worst thing a person can be afraid of. I look forward to screwing up and learning something new in the process. The key is to learn from mistakes and not make the same one twice. Thatsbthe recipe for success in all aspects of life :thumbs:

Glad to have you on board!

 

[SkatterBrayne]

Update​

Today was an... Interesting / Scary / Nightmarish day. I think I will resume DWC when the temps get a little bit cooler, and I'm jumping ship for now due to the root rot and elevating res temps. I germinated 3 of my freebie photoperiods incase these plants eat shit and die. If the autos manage to come back strong, I will probably just turn those photos into bonsai mothers or something. I have some more autos that should be here within the next week or two also, so I'm not too worried. Just trying to avoid any significant setbacks, so its good to have a backup plan.

Decided that the root rot problem was not something that I was going to win. The rot was killing the majority of my developed root structure on both of my Critical Jacks. I decided I would attempt to transplant my plants into coco for now. I will likely do one or two plants in a DWC in my other tent, and use H2o2 from the beginning to avoid any rot problems. But once it set in, I felt like I was doomed...

I tries to get thw white widow into the coco but with the rootball and netcup it was too difficult so i rinsed the roots and threw her back in the bucket. They were already too knotted up to transplant easily...

The one critical jack I took for dead, apparently had some decent roots which were still alive, rooted into the hydroton (and a few new ones that poked through the netcup this morning). Instead of giving her the axe, I potted her in a small 2 gallon pot to see if she can bounce back. I doubt it, but its worth a shot.

My other critical jack had some more root rot which I couldnt see, buried in the roots within the netcup. I slowly removed the upper layers of hydroton, and gently removed the entire plant aNd roots from the net cup. There was some significant rotting which I removed, maybe about 20% of the remaining root structure.... I'm sure that will stunt her, but she was already stunted from the rot anyway.

I really hope the white widow doesn't get slowed down too much, and I hope the critical jacks can survive. By seeing the entire root mass, I feel confident that the majority of the rot was removed and hopefully will not continue to be an issue.

 

[SkatterBrayne]

Update

For now, I am going to go out on a limb and say disaster diverted. After my mass transplant into coco, the ladies seem to already be bouncing back. I'm not 100% sure on the ages but off the top of my head I believe the Critical Jacks are 32 Days Old, White Widow (Not in these pics) is 27 days old, and the 3 Seedlings are 10 days old. Ill have to double check my journal though

My 3 babies had roots popping through the rockwool in their buckets, and I just removed them since they hadn't yet rooted into the hydroton. I placed them in 3 gallon pots filled with coco, and they haven't missed a beat.

The white widow is still in DWC. I had tried to transplant her into coco because I noticed some browning of the roots, but her roots were way too tangled to nicely tranplant them... Thats not to say I didnt try, however Stones slap. I rinsed the roots off, and threw her back in her bubble bucket. She looked really sad and she was drooping badly for about 36 hours, but she is beginning to spring back up again. I'm going to attempt to keep her in the bucket and see if I can fight off this hellish nightmare also known as Pythium. That smell will haunt my dreams until the day I die... I bought some Hygrozyme which eats away the dead roots and converts them to sugar, so I'm hoping that will be able to to help me fight this shit. I hope I can get this DWC in check, because I really want to try a few think different beans in DWC. I plan on using both DWC and Coco in my tents, so I want to get the hang of both anyway.

The Critical Jack that is more healthy, i put into a 5 gallon bucket filled with coco. Her bottom leaves look pretty rough right now, and she was drooping badly after losing alot of her roots to rot, but her leaves are standing at attention again instead of moping around.


The other critical jack I had expected to be dead by now. This bitch is a fucking cyborg or something. Her leaves were fried to shit, she lost over 80% of her root mass, and her leaves were sagging like a nutsack in a sweat lodge. I threw her in a 2 gallon bucket since I cant expect much out of her at this point, Somehow she has managed to regain her health, although her leaves look ratty still they are recovering. I had only sprayed the CS 3 times before I stopped in anticipation of her untimely demise. She has actually begun to show her bud sites, and they are starting to develop everywhere :jaw:.

Its insane how strong these plants are....

 

[Mrbubbles87]

Looks great! Glad things are turning around for ya. Sounds like a great comeback.