Grow Mediums stem problem w/ pics -need advice

[komach]

Looks fine to me. I got it one time as well. I thought(when I had it) it is because the nutrition solution was not lvled right and the nutes lvl was to high. Have no idea if it was right(my thoughts) and have no idea if it is the same in your case.

 

[Nowitzki44]

Get you some Silica Blast from Botanticare, you will see a HUGE difference in growth, this will strengthen the cell walls of your plant, and strengthens the plant overall, Its a MUST HAVE! In my opinion. I went for along time without using a silica, now i could never see growing without it. I start adding silica to my plants at about 2 weeks into veg, and continue to use it until about 2 weeks before they are finished. THe last two weeks of the plants life i only use plain RO water to flush out all the left over nutrients.

This is only my second grow, although I am always looking to try out new things. I will definitely look into it for sure. Thank you for your input! There's always next grow :-D. I have many thoughts on what to do next time and this isn't even half way done...that's what happens I guess. hahaha!

Are you using a fan to blow on the plants, to circulate air and help strengthen stems? I see the area just above the stones where the stem looks narrower. To me, it looks like a fan was blowing too harshly when the plant was younger, causing the stem to rub against the stones. Is that possible?

The pictures from the first page are from my first grow and it didn't have a good circulation, and neither does my tent now. This happened to this plant as well, I just didn't have pictures of the one I'm currently running until now. I have a 4" fan trying to circulate it but it's a 600watt hps in a 3ftx3ft growlab tent. I added another box fan in there to keep the circulation going. I plan on upgrading in the next grow to get better equipment for better results.



Also, I have pictures of the problem on my actual plant now. Keep in mind, this is a plant farther down the road and this is pretty much exactly what ended up happening after it wooded up last time. It looks fishy to me but so far I've been told otherwise...sorry for not having the pictures in the first place for an actual account of what was going on at the moment....

 

[lykaboss]

There doesn't seem to be an issue from what i am looking at, nothing out of the ordinary that "bark" is quite normal. One thing i learned is ... if the overall plant is healthy leave it, don't go trying to correct a problem that isn't there. Adding silica in the future will help with the overall durability of the plant. Think you can pickup silica blast for about 20 bucks for 32oz of it, its pretty cheap and well worth it.

If i was to analyze your pics i would say that darker "bark" on that last pic is where the plant was damaged in some way and is now healing itself. (Best educated guess)

 

[Nowitzki44]

Very interesting. Thank you!

Everything seems to be going fine, I just wanted to make sure that it couldn't hurt me down the road or in future grows if this keeps happening.

 

[Nowitzki44]

Hi every one. I'm having problems again but with some different plants. In the original post this was what I was worried would happen to my plant but it just happened to happen to two different ones. I'm not sure exactly what's going on so I would greatly appreciate some help. The discoloring of the leaves didn't happen until the last couple of days but the stem problem has been a problem for a while but I thought it would just grow through it but alas it was a fail and I am disappointed that I didn't come on here sooner to ask for advice.

The plant on the left in the pictures is the one with pretty much the completely split stem(which actually when it fell over I propped back up and then it started growing even more so I thought it would just grow in and make things okay). Both stems were looking brownish/woody before they went to black and then started to snap so I'm not sure exactly what is going on.

There's also green on the rockwool with the plant that had problems falling over and being open/broken...I think it's algae but I'm not sure I just noticed it right before I posted this. The weirdest thing is, the roots on the one that fell completely and looks cracked open are looking awesome and like nothing is even wrong, but the one to the right and not falling overs roots are looking dead and bad...yet the stem isn't even broken open but is definitely is looking loose like it's going to fall apart easily.

Please give me some input:

 

[wg]

In my opinion those are the signs of extreme calcium def.. that's pretty insane how fast it happened to you though. Check this out brother -

If a cannabis plant is affected by a calcium deficiency for too long, it may begin to show the following symptoms due to the lack of calcium.

Stems become weak or flimsy and may crack easily
Stems become hollow or show inner signs of decay
Plant does not stand up well to heat
Flowers/buds do not develop fully, or development is slow
Roots appear weak or under-developed
In severe calcium deficiencies, parts of roots may even die off or turn brown
Roots are more susceptible to root problems like slimy root rot
Cannabis tends to like high levels of calcium, so it is unusual to feed too much calcium when using normal amounts of nutrients and/or regular soil. There are not many known cases of cannabis calcium toxicity (too much calcium), however too much calcium can cause the plant to lock out other nutrients, so it's important not to go overboard..

Calcium deficiencies are more likely to appear when...

Grower is using filtered or reverse osmisis (RO) water to feed plants - the amount of calcium found in tap water varies, but some tap water has enough calcium to prevent calcium deficiencies
Growing cannabis in hydroponics with nutrients that don't supplement calcium or when growing in water that has less than 6.2 pH
Growing cannabis in coco coir that hasn't been supplemented with calcium or below 6.2 pH
When growing in soil or soilless growing medium that hasn't been supplemented with calcium (usually from dolomite lime) or is acidic (below 6.2 pH)
Too much potassium can also sometimes cause the appearance of a calcium deficiency
Outdoors - calcium deficiency is more likely to appear in acidic soil (below 6.2 pH)

What's your water source my friend?

 

[Nowitzki44]

Wow that is great information. I am just using tap water from our sink.

What should I do to fix this? Clearly add more calcium, but should I cut at the top of the point of breakage and add rooting solution to it and try to re-root it in a new rockwool?? I'm using the lucas formula for growing and that is the only thing i'm adding to my plants besides ph down to level the ph.

 

[Nowitzki44]

My hydro store is about 45 minutes away so I'm going to wait to seek more advice before I go out there. I don't care what money I have to spend as long as it helps.

I was planning on cutting at the top of the breakage point(also taking off the bottom leaves that look bad) and trying to re-root them to see if it will help them become healthier. Although there will be trauma to the plant I figured I could do it without it effecting it too much seeing how it is already still growing with having a pretty much open stem and I don't understand how(I planned on trying it with the other one too even though there was no complete breakage it looks bad)

 

[Nowitzki44]

Okay so overall there are 4 plants on this topic that are having problems. The pictures on the first page are from my last grow, and the pictures on the top of this page are some pictures from the grow I am having now. I am updating with new pics for that one, and also a new one that you guys haven't seen yet.

The two I'm showing now:

Cali Connections Green Crack(the big one), and Diesel Berry Autoflower(little one)


The small plant is starting to get a buildup of something on it(just like the other plants and the one that even grew big now)...and it even has a little dark spot on the side of the stem that you can't see because of the light.




The big plant has been having this problem and it was said that it was healing from a problem(not sure what the problem was---maybe the calcium deficiency)...it also has the problems on it's leaves on one side of the plant(I thought it was because I accidentally poured water on it with nutes in them on it when I was re-watering...not sure though)







So overall there are 4 plants going on all with pretty much the exact same problem and the autoflower i'm trying to prevent the problem from even happening.

All 3 photo plants are on the full lucas formula, the autoflower is only on like 1/3rd of the full lucas formula.



The two smaller plants that I showed you earlier are both sativas, the one on the left is black jack and the one on the right that hasn't snapped yet is sour diesel.

I feel like such a noob, hopefully I can find the solution and stop this problem from happening ever again.

 

[Nowitzki44]

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