STUNTED SICK DROOPY PURPLE STEMMED SEEDLINGS

[firsttimegrower12]

Btw, one thing I just noticed is that it looks like there is no perlite in ur coco? That could be part of your problem? Roots need oxygen and perlite helps with drainage and aeration.


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[big.purpp999]

Yes there is no perlite. Im doing another grow(not discarding this) with perlite. Ive also developed small red spots on top.

 

[big.purpp999]

Whats your rh? Temps like? Man we are literally on the same ass boat. Fucking slow ass shit. My rh is on the lower side. Ive started developing spots. Also what light are you using? Maybe we both are over watering?

 

[big.purpp999]

Definitely feed your plants. Funnily im feeding nutes yet my shit is still fucking yellowish. I think this is over watering. Maybe a nute lock out? The ph going in is 6.0. Seems funny

 

[STILLSMOKIN]

View attachment 1077924 View attachment 1077925 View attachment 1077926 My blue cheese autos which are 2 weeks are stunted as hell. Ive been feeding them with 1/4th strength nutes. Am growing in plain coco peat. I cant understsnd what is the issue? Is it damping off? Is it chronic over watering? Is it some sort of nute defecencies?
Also i heard you cant over water coco? I watered it till run off 3-4 times maybe in these 2 weeks. Maybe its not draining properly? HELP!

Problem: Drooping seedlings. Yellowish leaves. Highly stunted growth. Purple stems.

Medium/grow method: Coco Peat 100% ammended with limestone dolomite

Feed: and supplements used: City Greens NPK N (15:00:00) + P... https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0764B51DB?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

water source: Tap

Strain/age: 2 weeks old , dinafem blue cheese auto

light used: LM561c quantum
Board samsung

Climate: 26-32c / RH 31-22

Additional info:
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Fill out infirmary but that coco is way to dry. Coco is meant to stay moist and its hard to over water.

 

[firsttimegrower12]

Whats your rh? Temps like? Man we are literally on the same ass boat. Fucking slow ass shit. My rh is on the lower side. Ive started developing spots. Also what light are you using? Maybe we both are over watering?

RH is between 35-50%....not as high as I would like. Temps are 76-82. I was using an HLG65 LED for the first few weeks, but thought it may be causing the spots because of too much light or something....so now I am using CFLs for the first 2 weeks or so. They put off exactly the amount of light that seedlings need....I found that out with my light meter.

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[big.purpp999]

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RH is between 35-50%....not as high as I would like. Temps are 76-82. I was using an HLG65 LED for the first few weeks, but thought it may be causing the spots because of too much light or something....so now I am using CFLs for the first 2 weeks or so. They put off exactly the amount of light that seedlings need....I found that out with my light meter.

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My rh is pretty low too and similar. Hell even lower! Seedlings do not have much of a root system. So they take in most of their moisture through humidity. Maybe that is the cause for the stunty ness?

 

[Beerhunter CDN]

Did you rinse your coco before using it? What did you precharge your coco with? Coco still needs aeration so as far as I’m concerned perlite is a must. If you are watering to runoff with a seedling in unaerated coco and final pot, you will likely be overwatering. Was there a reason for adding limestone as an amendment? I think this could be a problem for you now and in the long run for pH of the medium.

Coco has some rules that have to be followed as it has particular properties different from soil and hydro. If you learn and follow those rules you will get a substantial harvest. I’d recommend starting in a solo cup and growing it out for a couple of weeks before transplanting to a final pot. Precharge your coco (after rinsing as we don’t know how much residual salt is left in the new coco) with a weak solution of nutes and some microbes. Add some perlite (30-40%), germ your seeds and plant in moist coco with a humidity dome until it sprouts and establishes leaves, then take the dome off. From there, top water with weak nutes. I weigh my freshly made up solo cup with coco and write it on the side. Let it start to dry out and weigh again. Now you have a max and min weight of nutes to add when feeding your new sprout.

 

[big.purpp999]

Did you rinse your coco before using it? What did you precharge your coco with? Coco still needs aeration so as far as I’m concerned perlite is a must. If you are watering to runoff with a seedling in unaerated coco and final pot, you will likely be overwatering. Was there a reason for adding limestone as an amendment? I think this could be a problem for you now and in the long run for pH of the medium.

Coco has some rules that have to be followed as it has particular properties different from soil and hydro. If you learn and follow those rules you will get a substantial harvest. I’d recommend starting in a solo cup and growing it out for a couple of weeks before transplanting to a final pot. Precharge your coco (after rinsing as we don’t know how much residual salt is left in the new coco) with a weak solution of nutes and some microbes. Add some perlite (30-40%), germ your seeds and plant in moist coco with a humidity dome until it sprouts and establishes leaves, then take the dome off. From there, top water with weak nutes. I weigh my freshly made up solo cup with coco and write it on the side. Let it start to dry out and weigh again. Now you have a max and min weight of nutes to add when feeding your new sprout.

I rinsed my coco before using and ammended it with limestone dolomite to be sure there arent no cal defecencies then i mini-flushed it once again to ensure there are no salts built up. Or the limestone doesnt burn the young seedlings.

Also another thing! Along side all these ill effects i even noticed some tiny ass red rusty marks developing on the seedling. Thinking its a cal def i added some limestone crushed as per the instructions on the package. 2 days later they even advanced more. And i noticed “darkish patches” on my already sick seeds and it was highly yellowed/bronzed-ish. Also it had a dirty look to it(like it looked it wasnt clean and had dirt on the leaf surface). On inspecting i noticed there were tiny salt-grain sized pests on the underside of the seedling and on top some white looking grains. But now i feel it might be phosphorus defecencies. Can you confirm wether this is phosphorus def or mites? I started the neem foliar today! Hoping this was the reason why my plant was getting held back from growing.


This is it when i noticed it yesterday :-


This is it today :-

 

[Beerhunter CDN]

I rinsed my coco before using and ammended it with limestone dolomite to be sure there arent no cal defecencies then i mini-flushed it once again to ensure there are no salts built up. Or the limestone doesnt burn the young seedlings.

Also another thing! Along side all these ill effects i even noticed some tiny ass red rusty marks developing on the coco. Thinking its a cal def i added some limestone crushed as per the instructions on the package. 2 days later they even advanced more. And i noticed “darkish patches” on my already sick seeds and it was highly yellowed/bronzed-ish. Also it had a dirty look to it(like it looked it wasnt clean and had dirt on the leaf surface). On inspecting i noticed there were tiny salt-grain sized pests on the underside of the seedling and on top some white looking grains. But now i feel it might be phosphorus defecencies. Can you confirm wether this is phosphorus def or mites? I started the neem foliar today! Hoping this was the reason why my plant was getting held back from growing.


This is it when i noticed it yesterday :- View attachment 1078523


This is it today :-
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I think you may have more than one problem going here. I believe pH is a problem from the limestone. Are the nutes you are using made for coco? I’m not familiar with them. Right now, if you know the pH of the feeds it will change to a value you do not know because of the limestone. In my mind, the simplest way to use coco is to feed using nutes with a known concentration and pH. I think when you start amending the coco directly it doesn’t behave like coco would normally and adds variables. Limestone takes time to break down and it can “amend” much more than your plants want further into the grow because coco doesn’t necessarily behave like soil. However, others have amended coco with all kinds of stuff and haven’t had problems.

As for the bugs, those could be tiny white eggs. IPM isn’t something I know well at all. I’ve never had an issue with pests. Can you look at them under magnification?

If it were me at this point, I’d start fresh. You’re not very far into the grow and these problems will hurt your yield by the time you get it back on track. I also understand that this is your grow and it holds meaning so not an easy choice to make. If you scrap it, I would disinfect everything in your grow space. If you don’t, you might want to add sticky pads to the pot and see if anything gets caught that you can identify and treat accordingly.