Live Stoner Chat Suggestion For Mods

[az2000]

they like that if they want to see a grow log on a sweet seeds strain they go to the sweet seeds sub forum , or if they want to see one on a dutch passion strain they go to the DP sub forum , then they dont have to look through 39237264 different grow logs to find the specific log they are looking for

That example seems like the exception. To illustrate:

Someone might grow Sweet Seeds but put their journal in the Hydro forum. Or, they might use organic nutes but put their journal in the LED section (maybe even the New LED grower's section because they're new to LEDs. Or, maybe the New Grower's forum because they're not just new to LEDs... but new to growing.).

So, while you have a good point that it's easier to find Sweet Seeds grow journals in the Dutch Passion forum -- there's no guarantee that's where they'll be. Now we're back to looking for Sweet Seeds grow journals in a few different places. A person might be lucky and find some. But, wouldn't you like to see all of them (and quickly zero in on those that are indoor, organic, LED?).

I don't know how you could answer in the negative since you just validated that convenience is an important element of this topic.

 

[Trapper]

To me, it's not a matter of what the opinions are pertaining to which format, or what organizational hierarchy would be most effective...suggestions are fine, suggestions are just that...ideas about how an Admin MIGHT want to make improvements. My problem with some of the assertions made in this thread are that they assume that the validity of a suggestion means that it must be followed or the whole kit and caboodle is flawed in some way. Or that there is some sort of imperative to improve to some other model. As guests, we have an obligation to adapt to the way things are. It's impertinent and self-absorbed to assume the opposite. It's the same whenever any one is a guest of someone else's. I'll use the Dinner at a friend's house metaphor again...As a guest (with the rules of common courtesy and politeness in full effect) I adapt to the scenario as opposed to suggesting that there is a better way to do something...it's their rodeo. I don't instruct them not to make the main course with some item I personally dislike...I politely work around the item and express gratitude for the hospitality. Some here seem to think the the validity of the argument trumps all else...it doesn't. It's not a Democracy, it's someone's offering, as a public service, and it shouldn't be expected to adapt in order to achieve someone else's standard of effectiveness or efficiency. But explaining this is, itself, hurting the vibe that so many work to maintain...so I'm done. Vibe Guard...activate!

Cheers, Everybody!

 

[Epic Genetics]

That example seems like the exception. To illustrate:

Someone might grow Sweet Seeds but put their journal in the Hydro forum. Or, they might use organic nutes but put their journal in the LED section (maybe even the New LED grower's section because they're new to LEDs. Or, maybe the New Grower's forum because they're not just new to LEDs... but new to growing.).

So, while you have a good point that it's easier to find Sweet Seeds grow journals in the Dutch Passion forum -- there's no guarantee that's where they'll be. Now we're back to looking for Sweet Seeds grow journals in a few different places. A person might be lucky and find some. But, wouldn't you like to see all of them (and quickly zero in on those that are indoor, organic, LED?).

I don't know how you could answer in the negative since you just validated that convenience is an important element of this topic.

if someone does one in the hydro forum i wont see it , but ill see the ones in the breeder section , and thats good enough for me , maybe we should pettition for one of the super mods or admins to make duplicate threads and spend the time going through everything and moving the newly duplicated threads to a specific newly created sub forum

i do understand why some are wanting this , im not blind lol

but imho , it was something that should have been in place from day one , being that its not , i doubt anyone is going to do it now , it would take weeks

once a member has been around long enough they wont miss any new logs as they only need to click the button to view new posts and see any and every post made since their last visit , if a grow log was started they will see it

:dunno:

peace

p.s. like someone mentioned , do a google search and they come up

 

[az2000]

but imho , it was something that should have been in place from day one , being that its not , i doubt anyone is going to do it now , it would take weeks

Implementing a new Grow Journal forum (with categories/tags/filtering via a vBulletin add-on) shouldn't require moving all the existing grow journals.

I don't see anything wrong with starting something different while leaving the old in place.

There may be volunteers who would like to identify and tag legacy grow journals for movement to the new (centralized) location. But, that could be a phase 2 which, if it never happens, wouldn't be any worse than it is now.

I don't think it has to be an either/or proposition. But, I do understand there are higher priorities for that inner group to work on.

 

[Epic Genetics]

Implementing a new Grow Journal forum (with categories/tags/filtering via a vBulletin add-on) shouldn't require moving all the existing grow journals.

I don't see anything wrong with starting something different while leaving the old in place.

There may be volunteers who would like to identify and tag legacy grow journals for movement to the new (centralized) location. But, that could be a phase 2 which, if it never happens, wouldn't be any worse than it is now.

I don't think it has to be an either/or proposition. But, I do understand there are higher priorities for that inner group to work on.

starting a grow journal specific section now for any future grow journals shouldnt be an issue , maybe if you ask muddy nicely he will add one , but to go and tag all the ones scattered around would require someone who really wants it done , but even normal members can tag threads as far as im aware

peace

 

[az2000]

As guests, we have an obligation to adapt to the way things are. It's impertinent and self-absorbed to assume the opposite. It's the same whenever any one is a guest of someone else's.

I don't think that's a valid comparison. The forum isn't by "invitation only." It derives some revenue from ads (and perhaps sponsors who inhabit the forum). I get the impression they want to serve what is a growing community.

If that's true, it seems like constructive criticism would be valuable. I.e., I doubt they'd say "don't like it, go start your own autoflower forum." I'm sure they want people to stay, grow and enhance the *community.*

So, in that sense I don't think it's as simple as being a humble guest. But, you're right that there are other priorities and as members of a community we should be constructive.

 

[AndyBotwin]

I don't think that's a valid comparison. The forum isn't by "invitation only." It derives some revenue from ads (and perhaps sponsors who inhabit the forum). I get the impression they want to serve what is a growing community.

If that's true, it seems like constructive criticism would be valuable. I.e., I doubt they'd say "don't like it, go start your own autoflower forum." I'm sure they want people to stay, grow and enhance the *community.*

So, in that sense I don't think it's as simple as being a humble guest. But, you're right that there are other priorities and as members of a community we should be constructive.

You are incorrect. This site costs money to run and is paid out of pocket by people who believe in it. The fact that you visit here is not making anyone any money, and the site certainly does not owe you anything other than thanks for being a member of the community. We are all guests here, from the newest noob to the admins.

 

[dude]

even though you explained your post , it still to me looks as though you were asking what i said , with a short/limited post you should remember not everyone knows whats in your mind

No you dont know whats on my mind so its best to read it and take it like that.

You know when it says things like

I really dont see the merits of it, sorry.

For example where would i put my GreenPoison from SweetSeeds photo, hps in soil grow?

Dont know why you want to argue with me but i wont stoop to your level on this and im out cause you is stirring bad vibes about


Peace out guys

 

[Mossy]

 

[az2000]

We are all guests here, from the newest noob to the admins.

I wouldn't disagree with that depiction, which represents a "community." I was disagreeing with the depiction of being invited to dinner. That it's rude to point out the chef might try a little less salt next time.

Typically, forums monetize visits either through banner ads or sponsorship (the value of which is based upon metrics which include visits, membership statistics). I.e., more posts translates into more Google search results, leading to more visitors and potential members. I.e., the "guests" who we were being told shouldn't have any opinions about the quality of the site contribute to the usefulness, growth and value of the site. "Value" having a variety of meanings, from subjective value to the members (such as the vibe, decorum, etc.) to those being monetarily compensated for their time administering the site.

Discouraging constructive suggestions isn't constructive. But, I do agree that we should all remember the admins have a lot to do (as most of the community does) and we should be careful to be constructive.