Extraction Tamisium Butane Extractor

[Sauce Boss]

.Good morning guys, just doing the usual, having my morning cup of Joe and vaping a bowl of headies.

Let me first start by saying that the only things I know about hash/oil/bho/ect is what I read online, I have zero first hand experience with making it, or even really talking about it with knowledgeably.

I came across this awesome piece of equipment for Oil extraction, it's called a Tamisium Extractor.

Without going into too much detail myself, and from what I have gathered so far, it's like doing a normal bora/butane extraction but it's a closed loop system that recovers the butane, all while having the ability to finely control your most important variables.

I have done a little reading on other boards and have seen, so far, upwards of a 28% return off some super sticky icky white rhino. Sounds promising for the perfectionist. Perfection, or coming to attaining it with this product, comes at a price though. Prices for a standard 2oz model start at $995, and upwards of $8000 for a heated, computer controlled 8oz version.

Sorry I'm not feeling very informational at the moment. Check out the site for more info than I can provide, and no I'm not endorsing it nor am an affiliate.

 

[mjmwincali]

Sauce boss- were u peeking in my window this morning!?! That first sentence is my down-time ritual!:buds: but ne ways, that tamisium is a badass, by the looks and sales pitch anyways.never heard anyone who has one or even used one though. Be nice to be able to splurge on some super clean n-butane and not watch it disappear every time.

 

[JM]

yeah, technically, thats not that hard to build... couple of the fittings might be tricky... but I'm sure you could improvise... then you just need the temp control.... not sure what temps they run but I now theres something pr4ecise enough and in the right range for less than those prices

TBM is also right on this... I can ALWAYS taste the butane in butane extracted... co2 is pure... evaporates completly without leaving petroleum distillates like butane.

 

[kingpin420]

How do you do a co2 extraction? I have always wanted to do butane extraction. Its just so dangerous with the butane

 

[Sauce Boss]

According to the inventor of the Tamisium, better results are found from using N-Butane over CO2.

From the site -

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]I would like to answer this question by explaining some of the reasons why we use Butane over CO2. CO2 is a chemical GAS that goes from solid to gas without going into a liquid phase. In other words you are extracting with a gas, not a liquid. A sublimating solvent. This makes CO2 very hard and expensive to use as a solvent for extracting. Requiring many times more dense volumes of gaseous space to hold 1 volume of liquid CO2 even when compressed up to 1400 plus psi. And that is if it were a liquid which it will not be. Compress it to 10,000 psi and you may get 1 gallon of liquid to fit into 2 gallons of space. With all this pressure, efficiency is increased but at what price. The cost, time and labor efficiency is traded away. Pressure has some negative side effects too. And it is very expensive and dangerous which requires a very high knowledge which is usually assumed you have when you purchase the equipment. Due to the danger and complexity required to run a SC System most manufacturers of SC equipment will not offer assistance past setting up your equipment.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]CO2 also has a covalent bond and is not totally non polar which means for a CO2 extraction to become effective at extracting oils, you may have to add non polar flammable solvents to change its polarity or polarize the CO2 first. Back to butane and hexane etc.

Butane goes into a liquid very easy and requires far less volumes of space to send 4 gallons of liquid through 1 gallon of plant matter. As a matter of fact, you need 4 gallons of space to send 4 gallons of liquid through. It is a liquid and not a sublimating solvent like CO2. It is a simple straight line molecule with no isomers and is very non polar. These facts makes Butane a preferred solvent for extracting oils. CO2 is virtually a non condensable gas for all practical purposes and usually is just blasted into the atmosphere after use requiring you to buy more and more. Butane is an easy to condense gas and is easy to recover for reuse.

Both are non toxic gases but one is much easier to deal with than the other. Both evaporate more cleanly. One is non flammable but to be effective requires a mixture of flammable solvent most of the time. Butane is less flammable than the propane most people use when cooking over an open flame or the gas you use to cook on in your home. When butane is dropped below freezing, the container holding it can be opened and the liquid can be viewed inside. Much less volatile than people think. Volatility meaning rate of evaporation is fast and is easily vaporized. CO2 is far more volatile than butane. Butane is extremely non-reactive which accounts for a more pure tasting product when dealing with consumables. CO2 can be somewhat reactive and can alter the taste to some degree which implies some reaction and additional compounds may be present. This could be due to the high pressures involved and are unavoidable but it is more likely due to the make-up of the carbon and oxygen atoms in the CO2 molecule and the way they react to other molecules in the plant extractions or plant matter. Both CO2 and Butane have the ability to extract out and then preserve or harness some of the most precise fragrances and aromas due to the fact that both of them evaporate away cleanly at very low temperatures which ensure that non of the aromas extracted are lost during their removal. Nitrogen, Oxygen and some other exotic non recoverable solvents can do the same. The only one that can be easily recovered is Butane.

Since we do not have to build small diameter 1 inch thick walls for all our solvent holding tanks, so we can compress the solvent into smaller volumes of space, we can cut cost down considerably for the consumer. This allows many more people to jump on board and assist all of us in finding cures and producing medicine at a lower cost which makes distribution of some of the highest quality medicines available to more people.

You could use CO2 in our system as long as you keep the system open to the air and you don’t add more pressure to the system than butane would add under normal use. If you want to go above that, you would need another machine and much higher price tag and lot of instruction before you could use it safely and effectively. Most people will never fully understand the true capabilities of their extraction equipment. I will try my best to see that you know how to use ours and reach your fullest potential. We have a new system and must help our customers because there is no one else that can. Our success is dependent upon on your success.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The answer is yes you can use CO2 in this system only if you do not keep it a closed system. Allowing the pressure to escape from the bottom tank will leave you with a CO2 only extraction capability. In addition, using the same process you can use Nitrogen, Oxygen and so on. But why would you want to use such a low efficient, lower yielding hard to manage GAS solvent when you could use liquid butane which evaporates 100% clean and is non toxic as well and can be recovered. If the FDA will allow it to be used to spray cooking oil into your skillet over an open flame then[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] I would steer clear of the more exotic low performance solvents and stick with the high performance solvent. You can use Butane as the extraction solvent, carrier solvent, transport solvent as a liquid and then vaporize it away and or recover it. How much more performance do you need without any detection it was ever used in any phase of the extraction process.[/FONT]


Maybe Trifid can chime in?

 

[JM]

trust me.... easy:

[video=youtube;nPue7gcy6KU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPue7gcy6KU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/video]

[video=youtube;N99I7QBGwhA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N99I7QBGwhA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/video]

[video=youtube;ljC2WxvXzXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljC2WxvXzXk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/video]

 

[LiquidJunglist2]

Been watching vids of these would love one... Maybe when im a big boy.