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Personally, I have witnessed a national paper go from lively readers comments to vicious personal attacks and what we call trolling.

That paper stopped all comments a week ago. Within last three years it seems most internet comment sections/forums are following in lock step with this trend.

Now--the Washington Post is reporting (By David Lat April 21 David Lat is the founder and managing editor of Above the Law eliminated comments).

So--the cost--of no comments-is the absence of a "peoples" internet to a pedestrian and one sided commercial form of communication. In fact, most young people use computer to chat with friends the rest of the mess is just that a mess of special commercial interests.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...king-the-internet-worse-so-i-got-rid-of-them/

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"Over the years, however, our comments changed. They had always been edgy, but the ratio of offensive to substantive shifted in favor of the offensive. Inside information about law firms and schools gave way to inside jokes among the “commentariat,” relevant knowledge got supplanted by non sequiturs, and basic civility (with a touch of political incorrectness) succumbed to abuse and insult. A female Supreme Court justice was called a “bull-dyke.” An Asian American woman’s column about civility in the legal profession provoked me love you long time” in response. My colleague Staci Zaretsky, who writes extensively about gender inequality in the legal profession, was told: “Staci, you have plenty of assets, like that fat milky white ass.”

So we decided to get rid of the comments section.

We’re not alone. In 2013, Popular Science shut off its comments. In 2014, Recode, Mic, the Week and Reuters closed down their comments sections. Other sites that have removed comments include Bloomberg and the Daily Beast. According to a 2014 study by journalism professor Arthur Santana, of the 137 largest U.S. newspapers, 49 percent did not allow anonymous comments and 9 percent had no comments at all. After the National Journal eliminated comments on most stories, its website traffic and levels of user engagement increased."

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In part, our decision was based on science. Researchers have found that when readers are exposed to uncivil, negative comments at the end of articles, they trust the content of the pieces less. (Scientists dubbed this the “nasty effect.”) A study by the Atlantic found that negative comments accompanying a news article caused readers to hold the article in lower esteem. In an increasingly competitive media environment, websites can ill afford to have their content and brands tarnished in this way."

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As a long time member of AFN I and all can say--AFN has also had to react to trolls and bullies.
Fact--AFN is a great site but far from the days of amiability. Old members rarely if ever visit AFN. In fact--they are the ones that made AFN a family back in the days.

The author of article is founder of a forum!

Cheers
 
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don gcase and eof both of you are SO right! the internet in general is garbage in garbage out. its like the new religion, to feed the population bullshit just like religion did for thousands of years.
now that the belief of a supreme being is starting to lose ground, those 1% ultra rich are feeding people garbage, and like you said, they wont allow dissenting comments anymore, just keep feeding garbage.
the new religion of the 21 century. no more supreme being, just the supreme dollar. no wonder the suicide rate has gone up 25% in the last ten years, in this country. they say ,that in another ten years, suicide will be the number one cause of death. and as Noam Chomsky said, there is no hope anymore. I am glad I am an old man, otherwise I would be a terrorist, to fight against the pile of bullshit.
that the rich are slinging to cover there actions.
 
Good feedback Eye and Astro. Yes--noticed article in paper, a few days ago, per middle aged USA citizens checking out. Like we all heard on news this weekend, fentanyl is/was cause of death in one Ohio county--surpassing all suicides and auto accidents combined. Now--use of narcotics is definitely a symptom of the state of country etc.

Here is the biggie---USA officials investigating rationale for suicides--found a correlation with internet and loss of real connections with middle aged people. The internet is dangerous not so much per PORN like early years--but--the nasty "sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt"-------------what a ____ fallacy. On the net one can be blasted--so impersonally--with the written word as venom that the psychological implications are very serious. One is up against an invisible individual(s) with the goal of inflicting mental anguish. We are not thick skinned on internet every comment has potential to negatively effect a reader or the victim.

The effect on young teens and young adults must be agonizing.

Like mentioned in article how did the recipient of this feel: A female Supreme Court justice was called a “bull-dyke.” An Asian American woman’s column about civility in the legal profession provoked me love you long time” in response. My colleague Staci Zaretsky, who writes extensively about gender inequality in the legal profession, was told: “Staci, you have plenty of assets, like that fat milky white ass.”----this is why many woman join forums or make comments under a male sounding--username. Even on AFN there has been and may still be women posing as men to avoid---the bullshit some direct towards ladies.

Lastly--every med/recreational user of cannabis if honest with self must admit its use as a living buffer of sorts!

In last few months my internet use is down by 75%. Can't read blog and some forum comment sections any longer due to the hostility and personal attacks of every day commenters.

Cheers
 
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Astro--Chomsky quotes.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/2476.Noam_Chomsky

Great quotes, e.g., “The whole educational and professional training system is a very elaborate filter, which just weeds out people who are too independent, and who think for themselves, and who don't know how to be submissive, and so on -- because they're dysfunctional to the institutions.”

Above is now my rationale for my inherent dislike of organized authority. Though--mine started in first grade------:rofl:------and tis true!

Cheers
 
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