To make a long story short the three TD seeds i received from Attitude were extremely small-almost microscopic-and only one germinated and that one was at first horibly deformed. The first set of leaves shot straight up and then twisted around each other. After a few days of doing nothing the mainstem bent over at 90 degrees and then 2 bottom branches emerged and took over. After about a week of rapid growth the whole plant curled up into a baseball shape but the color was good.After a few days of that it finally opened up and now everything seems to be hunky dory. I've had good luck with mutant plants before. This plant was started on Jan 2. I had one Maxi Gom seed left from a grow and started that one about 3 1/2 wks later and its doing excellent. I have since ordered and received 3 more TD seeds and they looked normal. I only germinated one of these beans and it took right off. The sprouted seed was placed in the dirt on Thurs and the pic you see is on Fri. So now I have 2 TD's and one Maxi all of different ages which works for me. This grow I hope is all about yield. So far my personal best for a one auto plant cleaned and dried yield is 107 grams and I hope I can beat that with one of these plants. I firmly believe that my problem with the first batch of seeds is an exception and not the rule. Any how here's 2 pics of the 2 header and one of the Maxi and one of the seedling. I'll try to post pics about once a week