Watering outdoor

[KonopCh]

Guys help me with some info... I plan to start indoor for 15 days in 2L pots, then move outside in soil. I will use NPK tabs so I can use only water till finish.
How big you dig a hole? Is 2L enough? Or it's better 20L? Looking for best yield of course.

 

[G.Leave]

Guys help me with some info... I plan to start indoor for 15 days in 2L pots, then move outside in soil. I will use NPK tabs so I can use only water till finish.
How big you dig a hole? Is 2L enough? Or it's better 20L? Looking for best yield of course.

Strain dependent of course....i like 3 feet diameter holes for easy root expansion on the giant autos like AWW XXL and autoultimate. 2 feet diameter would do mid-larger sized autos.

 

[G.Leave]

Guys help me with some info... I plan to start indoor for 15 days in 2L pots, then move outside in soil. I will use NPK tabs so I can use only water till finish.
How big you dig a hole? Is 2L enough? Or it's better 20L? Looking for best yield of course.

** be careful with your transplants in 2L containers at 15 days!! Sounds like a prime situation for instatransplant pots

 

[KonopCh]

@912GreenSkell so it's not advised to plant directly in ground? Better buy soil with perlite and dig a hole?

 

[G.Leave]

@912GreenSkell so it's not advised to plant directly in ground? Better buy soil with perlite and dig a hole?

If PH and drainage on the native soil is good i would try directly in the ground.

 

[fryge]

I've also planted into the native soil without any ammending multiple times, it works fine.
although you'll probably get bigger yield and possibly denser buds if you ammend the soil.
on the other hand, direct planting is less work, so you can just compensate for lower yield per plant by planting more.
either way I wouldn't use liquid nutes outdoor, flushes away too fast, and is expensive. personally I use pellets made from chicken manure, but you could also buy some generic NPK-pellets from a farmer's store, super cheap and it doesn't flush immediatly away with the first rain.

my first grow I even had a plant that got over 2 metres tall, while it was planted late(somewhere around half july), in my backyard wich at the time was on sand soil.

last year I grew guerilla, also straight into soil without ammending, but this time in clay.

last year I also had some plants that I planted out at 10-30 cm high, didn't water them at all, when I returned after a few months they had overgrown the whole spot, one plant was especially tall, around 2,5-3 metres(and was still growing, it was too late with flowering though, so didn't harvest anything ftom it).

how often/if you have to water depends a lot on your local soil, how often it rains, and how deep the watertable is.
for school I've had to do some calculations with it(based on fieldcrops, you take a certain depth for how deep the roots reach, then you take the volume of soil that this covers, then you multiply by the % of water held by the soil between field capacity and wilting point, and you have the amount of water available to the plant. then divide this by the transpiration per day, and you know how many days/weeks a crop can last without watering).
especially clay or sand matters a lot, clay holds way more water.
organic matter(compost) is also good for the waterholding capacity of a soil.

I'm not sure how well water crystals work, plants can transpire quiet some water so I'd guess it doesn't buy you that much time, but I'm not sure how much water those crystals hold compared to soil(and how easily they give it off). but I'd rather use compost or other organic matter if I was worried about water, esecially at guerilla where you're often growing inside nature reserves, so I prefer to not leave behind stuff that doesn't degrade. (luckily I'm in a luxury position for water, the area of my guerilla has a very high watertable, and it rains often. for me flooding is a bigger worry as drought)

 

[KonopCh]

That's some nice infos here @912GreenSkell and @fryge !! Thank you!!

I think it's best to try both methods: directly in native soil and with soil/perlite mix. After 15-20 days indoors of course. For the first time outdoors that would be okay for now. But still need some practice with watering and feeding... We shall see soon...

 

[Exotic Flower]

@KonopCh -- all the best for your outdoor summer plans!
I have really quite high rainfall here, so my plants don't need much water.
But for nutrients, I find using organic pellets or powders works pretty good.
I have used some in the area of NPK 3-5-5, but put in heavier than recommended.
This is partly because high rainfall will wash a lot of it away.
About planting into local soil vs bringing soil, one thing is just volume and convenience.
Carrying huge amounts can be pretty crazy, I'm too small to do that.
But I do like to find and dig holes at least a few weeks before planting.
Just digging up the soil, loosening it up, and throwing some amendments in there.
From perlite and vermiculite, to organic pellet and powder fert,
to crush egg shells (for extra Calcium), that kind of stuff, and mycco for roots too.
Leave it a few weeks, let the rains and bacteria work on it a while.

But main thing is knowing your area. Like rainfall, check local weather data, go back a few years.
And temps and humidity, to get a feel for how quickly the rain water will dry.
You sound like a lot drier than my place, so water storing pellets (as above) would be good.
One good thing about the ground vs pots, is that it dries out much slower.
Often the top is quite dry, but water is below. Just look at the plants / grasses nearby to see.

All the best, buddy!

PS: We want pics, haha!