Well. Things are going downhill fast

[DABaracuss]

Looks to me like you need some Mag and a bump up in the food department.Also looks like too much N and maybe over water?

 

[DTOM420]

View attachment 988087 View attachment 988088 View attachment 988089 View attachment 988090 View attachment 988091 View attachment 988092 The next few pics are the more sativa Girl Scout cookie who is a little behind the other in flower. She seems to be the least pissed of the three, and the last few pics of the droopy looking plant that hasn’t started flowering much yet is the one that’s the youngest and has the longest to go. It’s losing fan leaves pretty quick and I just can’t figure out why she’s so droopy, her pot is almost completely dry too.

There’s shot of all 3 because for some reason when I post pictures they’re all out of order. I h Pe it isn’t too hard to tell who is who.

They’re all pretty dry and probably need water soon but I’ve been waiting on the ph probe (be here Tuesday) along with the PK they need, also arriving Tuesday, I don’t know if they can wait until Tuesday though

I’m not qualified to determine/diagnose the deficiency so, I’ll leave that to others. I’m kinda guessing that you’re having pH issues like @Waira suggested and it’s really hard to know if it’s a deficiency of a nutrient or simply a lockout from pH. That’s the rub - in one case you want to feed and in the other, it won’t help and could result in a toxicity. Personally, I’d probably feed a 1/2 strength general grow nutrient along with some cal/mag IF (and ONLY IF) you’re 100% sure it’s time for them to get water. It wouldn’t be enough to over-do it and if they’re hungry, it’ll keep them going long enough to wait on you pH probe.

First, though - when you say they’re completely dry, what do you mean? I mean, how are you determine that they’re “dry?” I can tell when my plants are getting close to the point they’ll droop by lifting a pot. It’ll feel surprisingly light when they’re truly dry. If you’re not sure, I stick a finger down into the soil - if I can feel soil with ANY moisture with my finger tip, it’s definitely NOT “dry” at the bottom of the pot! Didn’t you have done issues with over watering in the past? Too much water can make them droop similarly to under watering and it can cause leaf yellowing and dropping of leaves. Confused yet?? Lol! Some folks on here can look and tell the difference, but that’s not me! Lol!

Some of your symptoms resemble some issues I was having due to pH swings, crappy water and buildup in my soil. Guess who helped me figure it out over a period of several weeks? Waira! Along with some other great folks in the infirmary. So, keep the faith! It may take a few try’s to get it right, and each treatment takes a while to manifest results. In the end, though- they’ll you fixed up!

 

[STILLSMOKIN]

Easy natural way to boost p is get some ash from a wood stove toss on top of soil then water. Looks to be the problem I'm guessing without knowing exact ph. @Waira is a busy guy here your tags and post get lost for sure but really need that ph. I would go get a gallon from local store and google ph level for that brand then check it with current ph pen or put ash on and buy one with a 6.5 level to water with. Also cold slows uptake of p so keep temps up. I find 74-76 for autos works great.

 

[Wallflower82]

Well they’re getting fed with BE and SC tonight but not very much. That ph probe has been delayed until later in the week, I guess because of the holidays, I don’t know. It’s not here yet tho.. pretty dissapintd about that, well what can you do.. . I’ll post pics after! Thank you all for your help, hopefully I can have a better idea what’s going on when it gets here

 

[Wallflower82]

Oh to answer your question @DTOM420 , I overwatered in the past with seedlings and clones but for some reason I guess I just got lucky with the older plants, I only grew a few times here and there so I’d consider myself still a novice grower back then and even more so now that I’m like a decade rusty lol and trying all these new things like autos and led lights and adding nutrients, I kind of liked the whole growing photos in good dirt and repotting them, I can say for sure the autos didn’t like being reported because it stunted the hell out of the 2 gsc. After seeing how they responded to it I didn’t repot the blue amnesia and I just started it in the container it’s still in.. & I think that’s why it grew so much bigger

I for sure overwatered last week, I had to go out of town & wanted to make sure they would be ok so I know I was way too overly generous with the water. but then it got extremely cold right when I left & there is no heat here.. so I think... the ph may not be ideal but I don’t think it’s too far off we will see when the probe gets here. I def think them getting a little overwatered and then subjected to those cold temps for a few days may have pissed them off & I think perhaps they were already at the point where maybe they wanted different nutes than they were getting in the 4g megacrop because although that was making them happy as hell in veg, as soon as they switched to flower the issues started popping up. So I doubt the extra water & cold temps when they were probably already feeling hungry helped much

 

[Wallflower82]

View attachment 988943 View attachment 988944 View attachment 988936 View attachment 988937 View attachment 988938 View attachment 988939 View attachment 988940 View attachment 988941 View attachment 988942 View attachment 988936 View attachment 988937 View attachment 988938 View attachment 988939 View attachment 988940 View attachment 988941 View attachment 988942 I got home today the temps dropped really bad again, I have a heating pad in there so.. between that and the lights they should be warm enough. I had to stay late at work again so they had a chilly day (probably was like 59-65 f in there). It’s warming up fast. So I decided to look into your suggestion @DTOM420 @DABaracuss ,about maybe them being overwatered & decided to give each a little more time to dry out, they’re pretty light today and they aren’t looking so hot I think they might all 3 be ready for water and maybe food.

The Sweet candy and bud explosion arrived and I’m just at a loss of how much to even give them right now given how sad They’re looking. Does anyone experienced with these nutes know how much I should give them given their obviously weakened state? I was thinking for the blue amnesia 3g Mc, 1g sc, and 1.5g bud explosion .... and for the Girl Scout cookie who is furthest into flower 1g MC 1g SC and 2g bud explosion... and for the big bushy sativa leaning girlscout cookie 1.5g MC 1g SC and 2.5g bud explosion. I have been giving them calmag 1-0-0 since they are under autocob LED, & unless anyone thinks that’s a bad idea... was gonna keep doing that, just the suggested amount 1tsp/gallon of water

I have never used these nutes so, just trying to get an idea. Also ... I’ve never grown autos, and I was curious if anyone had a guess on how much time the little plant that’s furthest along on flowering has left to flower? I’m seeing orange, more each day but I still feel like it’s got some time. Or I should say I was hoping it does... so that it can get a little bigger. How many days left any guesses - it’s a fast buds girlscout cookie born around oct 24-28th, I wrote it down but lost it lol. It seems to be more indica than the other one, if that helps. They were started at the same time

The sativa ish gsc started a new thing, she’s got brown spots near her serrated leaf edges now, seems to have started at the top of the plant , I’m not 100 percent sure but the whole plant seems to be affected, happened fairly fast, at this point I’m hoping they aren’t locked out or something. I have an awesome ph probe coming but amazon, or the seller, I don’t know, really failed me on delivery

 

[Wallflower82]

Well I wanted to wait for responses but today some branches were pointing straight down and I couldn’t wait any longer so I fed them with very little of each (dropped the mega down to a gram and a half), temps are low 70s. Hope what they got is ok, I don’t know they are looking much worse today I don’t think I stopped whatever is happening to them. I think it ended up being 1.5 g MC, 1 g SC and 1.25 BE.. along with about 1tsp calimagic per gallon

They lost more leaves over night last night than they had in the previous few days combined so obviously whatever is going on is accelerating quickly. The two gsc leaves are all going brown/dry and curling like you see in plants in late flower, except they don’t quite have the fat greasy buds to go along with it

the blue amnesia showed signs of flower some time ago and I suspect has kind stalled, developmentally because it’s looked the same for a while. After it got fed and some hours passed it finally looks like it has progressed slightly after like a 1-2 week droop/stall..

The pistols on the two gsc are turning even more orange each day, I’m starting to fear they may be a lot closer to the end of life than I wanted them to be.. I had hoped there was still time to fatten up but they aren’t looking to me like they have much more time to pack on some weight, I just don’t think it’s gonna happen this grow, they’re obviously super stunted because they should be a lot bigger at this stage. I guess I will try to keep these ladies alive a few more days, to me they got that approaching end of flower look..

They are surprisingly not sticky but have a neat minty smell starting to get stinky but they don’t even smell much compared to how I remember that stink of flower..

 

[Arthur]

Sorry, we're all kinda waiting on the info...really sucks, have been in this spot myself...am sure there's a lot of us that have been bitten by a wandering ph. Fingers crossed the mail brings what you need a little early.

 

[Wallflower82]

As of now it says Thursday delivery which is tomorrow, unfortunately I’ll be at work when it gets delivered and I work late. I’ll manage to get some readings asap.. I really want to know what the heck has been going on because I’ve just been trying to keep these plants alive totally blind for a while now, not really knowing if what I’m doing is helping or harming. Since I didn’t know what to do I kept the feeding super light & at 6.5 ph...

For the ph I’ve been using the GH ph up and down on the RO water, after adding nuts the ph is usually below 6 so I’ve mostly only used the ph up

 

[Wallflower82]

View attachment 989403 View attachment 989404 View attachment 989405 View attachment 989406 View attachment 989407 View attachment 989408 View attachment 989409 View attachment 989410 View attachment 989411 View attachment 989413 View attachment 989414 Blue amnesia seems to be looking better, less droop and the mass dying off of leaves has quit accelerating. The Girl Scout cookies not so much .. the branches are no longer pointed down with withering leaves now, so that’s good. I removed the dead leaves and after they were watered and fed that stopped. But the brown and yellow and leaf curling and burning on remaining leaves is only getting worse