Well. Things are going downhill fast

[Wallflower82]

Quick update.. I’ll be starting a grow thread for the 2 Pineapple Express. Now these are fast buds Pineapple Express and they’re in 3g pots, not quite filled all the way I left a little breathing room because I have no desire to deal with 5 foot plants. That said, I am growing them in a 3x3 with 3 65 watt autocobs.. (will be 4 eventually). Do I have room to start some Mephisto strains? For me second round I really wanted to see what they were all about ive been drooling over these strains for months. I can’t really assume the Pineapple Express will be huge and I kind of don’t want to make that assumption because my last round of plants were on the small side.. do I have room for 2 more plants maybe? They can be small like sour crack or something

Anyways I’ll drop a link as soon as I have one.

Blue amnesia just gets more bare by the day. All her leaves go yellow then brown then dry or fall off.. even the new growth is yellowing & drying. At first I thought lack of light but no she’s one sick plant. There’s a close up of this in the pics. Backing off to water only hasn’t done anything except stop the bleeding so to speak. Which is great because she stopped getting worse but now she’s just in a slow downward spiral it seems, just like the other plants. Should I chance it and feed her?

Gosh I just don’t know what to do with this plant. Soil ph is about 6.4 so... you got me. I just don’t know

So the 2 Pineapple Express that went into the roots organic sprouted within hours of each other and are almost what... day 4 now? Yeah they broke dirt about 4 days ago! They’re looking pretty happy so far.

The sour diesel also had a taproot & went into whatever I had left of the un-used fox farm soils... Guess who hasn’t poked up? Yep ..

This soil has to be bad

 

[Arthur]

Honestly, given all the ratty leaves, she kinda looks a little better...all the yellow burnt wint recover, but a couple of those last picks, she looks to be standing straighter, leaves more open and out...

 

[Wallflower82]

Yah? Hmmm. So do you think I should feed her @Arthur ? LOL because I’m so afraid to, it’s not even funny. All common sense says feed the plant but when I do she freaks out. I have GH calimagic, megacrop, sweet candy and bud explosion

 

[Arthur]

I'd probably hold off unless the pot is lite.. and without all the foliage to help process the nutes.... I'd be leary.... and if I did feed it would be very minor....remember, at this point, your not shooting to maximize your plants... I'd probably forgo any "bud sweeteners or ripeners"... your trying to finish with something decent to show for your efforts.
Focus on getting to the cut date with her as healthy as possible...and start making a list of what your going to different this time. I suggest writing it down and keeping in your grow. The list will get long!

 

[DTOM420]

Lol I’m so sorry it kind of did end up being a journal.. they started out ok and then I guess the drama just never ended with these girls. I am so out of practice not to mention autos and LEDs and stuff is all new to me anyways, it’s been a bumpy ride and I’ll retire this thread when blue amnesia either kicks the bucket or finishes.. let’s go with finishes! So you were using bud explosion with this problem plant ? Did you happen to start a thread for it did I maybe miss that lol, if so where can I find it ? I’m very curious

@pop22 do you think 4 autopots with their 2 gal pots would yield better in a 3x3 with 3 autocobs(will eventually be 4 autocobs)... or do you think 2 autopots with their 3.9 gal pots would yield better in the same thing ? Or do you think that’s just gonna be strain dependent? Hmmm.. I do like variety but not enough to sacrifice future yield potential (cuz I really need to step that up lol)

Yeah, it’s weird - it looks exactly like a K defficiency but when I feed BE the problem gets WORSE! Lol! Just do you don’t feel alone: https://www.autoflower.org/threads/deficiency-or-burn.68216/ You’re welcome to come feel my pain. Haha! I’ve got plenty of bud fattening up right now but the fan leaves look like hell.Nothing wrong with BE - the problem is something else. Like a soil problem related to a prior water problem and made worse by too much light at one point. I made a mess of her even though the others turned out pretty well.

Hey no worries on the length of the thread! Just saying, in the long run, you want to start a real journal IN the journal section; and just post the problems in here.

 

[Wallflower82]

I haven’t started the grow diary yet because I’m on the fence on starting a few more plants... this last time around they didn’t turn out so great kind of wish I had started more of them. Ofcourse this time I’m running 2 Pineapple Express which I think can get decently big or potentially quite big, I did limit the pot size just in case. I was going to add some more light and start some mephisto seeds possibly. Maybe 2 or 3 small varieties?

Anyways those Pineapple Express they have about 2.5 gal of roots organic. Now I haven’t used roots soil yet but did read what the soil was amended with.. would I be right to assume they won’t need any megacrop until like week 3 or 4 or might I be better off giving them a light feeding sooner? Well, I’ll make a decision today.. still no sign of that sour deisel... I’m pretty sure that fox farm soil is either bad or just cursed either way I’m getting rid of it

 

[pop22]

Those soil ph meters are terribly inaccurate. you either have a PH issue or you have some kind of infection in the soil, root aphids, etc. You can correct the PH if its organic with some garden lime oe dolomite lime sift out some fine powder and mix 2 tsp. per gallon of water. Let your soil get a bit on the dry side them water to runoff, thiswill bring your PH up a bit. you can also sprinkle another 1 to 2 tsp on top of the soil. If its a ph issue she should improve a bit. If the soil is fed nutrients, good luck.. plain water with a ph of 7 to 7.5 can help. Its a shame this happens this far into flower! good luck!

 

[Wallflower82]

Those soil ph meters are terribly inaccurate. you either have a PH issue or you have some kind of infection in the soil, root aphids, etc. You can correct the PH if its organic with some garden lime oe dolomite lime sift out some fine powder and mix 2 tsp. per gallon of water. Let your soil get a bit on the dry side them water to runoff, thiswill bring your PH up a bit. you can also sprinkle another 1 to 2 tsp on top of the soil. If its a ph issue she should improve a bit. If the soil is fed nutrients, good luck.. plain water with a ph of 7 to 7.5 can help. Its a shame this happens this far into flower! good luck!

I did see a lot of bad rep for those moisture meters, that’s why I went with the accurate 8 one that Waira uses, it was a bit more but it seems to be doing ok As long as the soil isn’t dry. If the soil is dry it’s way off but the instructions said that would happen. I’ve used Dolomite lime before, I’ll have to see if I can order some that doesn’t come in a giant bag. I do have ph up \ down already though, not that that’s at all a buffer

I’ve never to my knowledge had root aphids before, guess I better go search around and see what that looks like

 

[Waira]

Those soil ph meters are terribly inaccurate

... not in my experience mate, or I wouldn't recommend them to folks... I have tested A8 meters against proper slurry tests of a few different soil brands (and against each other), and all were within 0.2pH of each other,... the A8 needs to used properly to get the best accuracy, that's for sure,....

>> Wallflower, the pH is good, so feed her lightly, and get what you can out of her,... likely the roots are a bit thrashed, and that makes for difficult recovery no matter what,... she'll finish face-first and mostly nekked, but that's the breaks for this plant,....

 

[Wallflower82]

@Waira sounds great! I’ll check her in the morning and if she’s a little dryer I’ll give her a light feeding. For a plant her size in about 2.5g dirt... is there a ballpark amount of water she should be getting at one time or is that largely dependent on root health / current moisture level of soil etc

Because for the first part of these plants lives I was watering a lot more and they looked pretty droopy sometimes.. I had been watering to get runoff every time, but now I’ve stopped doing that & instead have been watering slowly only until as soon as the bottom of the fabric pot feels sufficiently wet/damp and a few drops start to come out . It ends up being like a little over half... close to 60 percent of the water they used to get. I also stopped letting the soil dry out completely.. I swear it wasn’t helping, not from what I could see anyways. So she’s been getting a little less water a little more often. Does this seem on the right track?

I just keep second guessing myself!

Thank you to everyone who has bared with me and helped me try to keep these girls alive, I appreciate it more than words can express