Thanks guys, i'm thinking it's probably tobacco mosaic virus.. I had never heard of it until reserching online. I do chew Cope so I'm not surprised really. I read somewhere it's present in 15-20% of tobacco grown in N Carolina, and you can pass it on by touching raw tobacco and not washing your hands. That's great, I always have a chew in when I'm "working" in the room.. and I usually wash only before I put it in, not after.. damnit