100% Organic Grow.

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Here is the response..everything is 100% organic aside from medusas magic.

That is interesting, I am not sure where they are coming from about our line. The only product that we would say is not 100% organics because we use Calcium Nitrate in it would be the Medusa’s Magic and the only reason we add any into that blend is because we have to stabilize one of the active ingredients before we can add it into the batch. One of the active ingredients in the Medusa’s Magic is digested chicken livers. We get in fresh chicken livers from foster farms and spend an entire day blending them with table top blenders. Once they are all blended into a slurry , we put them into a heat exchanger to strip off all the amino acids, proteins and enzymes. The finished product is rich in organic acids, and microbial food. The downfall of this concentrate is that it is acidic by nature and can not be stabilized with more organic acids like the rest of the nutrients. And we really don’t want to use a preservative to stabilize it because they destroy the protein profiles we are trying to get into the medium for the microbial population to use. So after years and years of playing with stabilizers, we ended up adding calcium nitrate to the liver concentrate to prevent it from spoiling and exploding.

In the past two years we removed the Potassium phosphate that was once allowable to the OMMRI standard because the product manufacturer we were using went out of business. We have been in the process of re-registering the new label around the country. But sense it is already registered with the current label we keep it on the bottle until we can move to “a single” new label for the entire country. The biggest nightmare we have is the regulations in this country are not universal from state to state. We can be good with 40 states and then have california step in and change everything. So until we can get all states to accept one label we are kind of stuck running the old one to avoid penalties. We also offer a feather protein digest on it own called pegasus potion that is simply digested feather meal that we extract off only the simple nitrogen proteins. Great source of usable nitrogen without the risk of stress, elongation and burning. That would be a good alternative to using the medusas magic.

Other then Medusa, everything else in our line is organic and natural. Natural meaning we use a lot of calcium limestone, humic acids, fulvic acids. So those would not be considered organic materials due to the OMMRI standard of carbon based inputs. They are mineral based. But not Chemical based.

I agree with his statement that mineral based fertilizers are synthetic. I am wondering if he is getting Nectar for the Gods confused with Nectar A and B from GreenStone Nutrients. They are completely synthetic mineral based. Let me know your thoughts. And feel free to just gift the nutrients to a friend if you are not comfortable with my answers. Or hold on to them and if you are ever in the Oregon area, you can tour the facility and see what we do and how we do it. Certainly not interested in having a debate with someone who has no idea of who we are and what we do. We are comfortable making the products we make and go to great lengths to protect our environment and surrounding community by implementing things like our 100,000 square foot rain water collection system that we make our nutrients out of, to taking all of our filtered waste products from our production facility and adding it to a local bio-digester to generate electricity for a neighboring town. Now if we could just figure out the plastic aspect of our products, we would literally have a negative carbon foot print.

Well, that’s a cool answer at least!

 

[Dazed]

Healthy response.

 

[evol]

As I said, this guy knows what he is talking about. its not just good marketing its a great product.
Let move this convo to my organics thread if you all dont mind.. Post any replys here https://www.autoflower.org/f89/i2.html

 

[Eyes on Fire]

and THIS is how hairs are split.hes saying everything correctly and hes right.but he answered our,MY atleast,questions(or this debate really imo in his response imo)since they have to add it to stabilize..lets look at that for a second..all the minerals have been pushed combined and balanced into a workable blend.bet you bottom dollar THEE actual more friendly recipe isnt stable.as is chemesty by defininition and mixing pushed and tooled compounded.man made isnt the way to go here.this i can assure you on.hes saying these compound will provide a stable soil and living soil and health population n so forth(including the working aspect,ie Buffering capabilities)..I call bullshit.but thats me.its(they are)a series of worked compounds that are ballanced and organic so to say organic yes 100% accurate but not an ideal blend nor solution to a living feeding soil imho.thanks for posting that man.nice write up though!!props!

these are what your balancing and sustaining as well as growing to maturity too.enjoy.loaded with his stuffs,organic or not it wont support these lifecycle protozoa n so forth.
[video=youtube;XqRLVUtAAV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqRLVUtAAV8[/video]

 

[Joedirt]

Yeah baby, its the circle of life!
kinda creepy but kinda cool.
if it cant support life how can you call it organic? TLO must be alive! I think im gunna dig out my wifes old microscope and have good looksee at my dirt, I hope theres some creepy critters dukin it out in there.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Just stoned n Rambling

Yeah man,it can live in an environment like that for a good while esp with a mixed soil not a standard basic kind ya see all the time.but to say tlo and essentially saying in a bottle with a standard organic soil ,and i disagree to the core since the time will come for that and the ultimate fake environment for a living mechanical soil that works with you not for you.but again imo it can be done but the sustainability characteristics of the soil with minimal amending for ease of growth and use and workablility of the soil are my biggest things Id be concerned about.and ofcourse seeing fair results of tested buds and the soil after several full cycles.but hell guys WTF do i know man..LMFAo Im just a dumb stoner dude chillin out n uber stoned atm,

So ofcourse i was going through a few Jars to see what to smoke on a wee bit n i decided on some S99(which btw is FAr better than previous cure n dry and oils present,thankfully) and its really nice,DAMN! so i took a cpl of shots n most of these except the last one i think is only been in the jars and vaults for a short time...like maybe a week er so.anywho,hope all is good with everyone and thanks for swinging by.

on a side note,Im not saying not to use this product.from the sounds of it its going to change some grows into some really nice and easy grows with massively improved quality,just comparing it to a full on tlo grow is a ..well,big words to be honest as we know n Im skeptical too.but anywho.moving on.enjoy the week!!:Sharing One:"AFN smoke out"
"AFN smoke out":smoke: "AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out"

Trippy tune man,seriously.give it a cpl mins all baked LMFAO!!

[video=youtube;qQGTjpHevvA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQGTjpHevvA&list=PLdRJCD4_c7Moq7vSWLgLrzcY kjO4iUFcX[/video]

 

[Eyes on Fire]

I took my plants out n watered n fed em a touch.I shoulds brewed a tea in all honesty but been feelin kinda lame assed soooo I lamed it LOL! but I got Mail and some 62% Boveda packs.like 40 of em.LOL!and a cpl lame bud shots.these gals are really effected as to how lazy Ive been this grow LMFAO!suucks but proves a cpl theories Ive had on roots and living soils n things as well as maturation and the kelvin cycle within the rhizosphere and stress on the plants ,lol nooot counting the lazy in pain way I didnt boost them like their supposed to be since their be dragon in them there tents LOL! anywho,hope all is good with yas ,thanks!

"AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out""AFN smoke out"
[video=youtube;ruHDEKiFpxM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruHDEKiFpxM&list=PLdRJCD4_c7Moq7vSWLgLrzcY kjO4iUFcX[/video]

 

[NekoSempai]

OoOoOoo crusipiddy crunchy lookin mature orange hairs.
Looks like that ones gunna hit the choppin block soon eh?
Purple on the sugar leaf tips. What strain is that?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

nah unfortunately they be dragons(not bad their dragons they just take longer at times lol) n they run long for a more amber and deeper med since a good amount of them will amber nicely if rolled out beyond the standard time frames with these..generally.thats the sour dragon or the sour D mango i cant remember but either way im gonna let them go till the meds are mature,shell be pretty ripe n glowing redish orange when Im done with her I hope anyway man.LOL!thanks fer swingin by bud:Hookah::Sharing One:

the purple splotches bro??those are the SD's actually gaining the pigment early cuz of my mistakes in the cal n carb boosting and they faded so its showing prematurely.but pretty when grown well.unlike this time round for me.i grew 100% purple black SD's last spring time.

 

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My Blackstone went close to 100 days if memory serves. Now that I've had a chance to sample it(pre cure mind you but still very very smooth) for me it's worth every day. Soooooo well medicated right now Love the pretty pics brother, not lame at all imo!! Stay well man, sending healing vibes your way.