Attempting tlo coco recipe.

[Eyes on Fire]

ok bro well i would get 1 gallon of mushroom compost half gallon of steer if you can get it(or a quality inoculate and/or spore/seeds) and castings of roughly 15 LBs or so.right about 3 or so gallons maybe even 4 and then break up all them clumps and mix all that up really really good. then take a soil such as dr earth or one of mellow worked make up like dr earths for example of like a .and add roughly 5-6 gallons of that mixing all that up and you can add your trace minerals as ya like to go with your styled feeding or dripping what have ya. but a baseline is something similar to this imho

1 gallon mushie compost

1 gallon steer compost(if can get it)or inoculate but to take up for the mass get some cow thats usually decent and add an extra half gallon too.with an inoculte thats easily bought or made.if ya got monies lol Im guessing you have your endo and ecto mix or great white or similar wettable powder?

and right about 3-4 gallons of casting.fresh casting would do excellent here with the steer with some blending times

1.5 cups of powdered lime(prilled is better) or 2 cups if your not PHing water

a few cups of rice hulls but added to the mix at the end to get your proper aeration to where you want it.but only a cpl cups or four at most imho.or combo or pumic rock,vermiculite (can be used solely too)but as ya know coco will air it up well.

and the rest i think,rinsed preped coco moist as ya know and add some of that lime to it along with these elements to start with.about a half cup of that lime sprinkle in and mix wellll with 1.5 alfalfa AND kelp meal.

also(you doing photos??or autos) you can add about a cup of bonemeal along with a half cupo of blood meal and a right about 2/3 cup cottonseed meal or feather meal.

ill stop here untill i know your doing photos or autos lmfao stoner and MS forgetful moment lmfao

 

[Truu]

Eyes you rock my friend! I was going to try both photos and autos with this. Probably autos first as I have a small veg room with nothing in it and 4 autos would fill it nice. I really like that mixture. I will follow your advice bro. When I get off work today I will re work my list of ingredients And show em to you to see what you think. I'm getting pretty damn excited for this, I've been wanting to try tlo for some time now and you have been a great help thank you.

Also, if I need to have 2 separate mixes, 1 for autos 1 for photos, I have no problem doing that. :hug:

 

[Eyes on Fire]

assuming its photos or a hardy semi( nooo sexual puns lmfao) id say then add to that mix is

Humic acid(not sure how strong the stuff youll be using is but right about a 1/4-1/3 cup)

2/3 cup azomite

2/3 cup green sand

2 cups crabshell and 1 cup finely ground eggshells or powder eggshells(crushed oyster shell too if you can get it at 2 cups)

2 cups alfalfa and kelp meal

1 cup of DE

and lime(prilled is best) powder you can add mixed really reeally well.right about 2 cups.

and veg guano id use about 3-4 Tbspoons

and bloom guano id use right about a 1/4 cup maybe slightly rounded 1/4 cup.

and bonemeal id add a good 2/3 cup

blood meal id add right about a 1/4-1/3 cup

cottonseed meal or feather meal or combo of the two id add something like2/3 cup maybe slightly less.

and if you can get some bokashi that'll be great as well as if its fresh along with the castings too.the steer and com n muchie should be composted already.the casting will help smooth the inocvulation and get it nore thoroughly pushed throughout the coco/soil mix.imho thats a great place to start.Im not as familiar with coco as you are but id think thats a great place to start.and a simple feed on occasion with your cal mag or a tea iff your so inclioned here or there n that'll do ya good i think.

ypoiu can also sprinkle in a cup of endo ecto WP too if you have some.or seeds or spores.hows that sound?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Thanks brother!Noo sweat bro! when I say fresh for the castings n bokashi Im really talking about making your own,cheap and very doable and pretty cheap.that is going to help with your spreading and blending of haivng the inoculate pushed as good as you can without having fresah steer and a few moths to work it lol but it'll moisten it all with them microbial juices n things and get all kinds of fuzzy too id bet lmfao!!id like to see that too lmfao!! yeah bro gimme a list n ill have a go bro :Sharing One:

 

[Darth Vapour]

This thread is golden.

What do you guys think about adding gypsum to the mix instead of lime? From what I understand, gypsum will supplement calcium in the soil without raising the pH. Which coco likes a lower pH than soil. Or does that not really matter?

Maybe go 2:1 gypsum and lime?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

better yet you could add a small bit of wood ash to 1:1 parts gypsum and lime. but really since there is just a bit more coco added or even a 1:1 aeration mix from hull,pumic rock whatever,this is a tlo aerated mix essentially with a nice constant source of water.I dont agree with this method at all just from a water stand point but thats me lol..but this is a tlo mix thu n thru.smaller and slightly harder hitting possibly so use plug or however you do it.

one of your more tougher components is to keep that life going while moist. its best to do a straight 50/50 mix with coco and tlo soil additives and just use perlite and i think zeolite(pumic rock)or similar name or rice hulls or combo there of about a cup each per 4 gallons of potting mix (3 cups total,MAX imo)but 2 is prolly best and should do pretty well with easy drip system and small batches of cal mag or simple hit em n forget em waterings at a cup or so at a time.pretty easy easy method when using several pots and a drip system id imagine.dunno how yer set up.but thats my opinion.but you wanted a more coco heavy mix and thats doable but again the inoculation is the key in almost literally steeping it in that inoculate base for a good spell to cure.but once you achieve that you should be completely golden imho.

 

[Truu]

Darth I was thinking the same thing, I think I will probably do the 2:1 mix.

Eyes your mixture looks spot on bro. I cant think of adding much more, and I dont think I can afford to add much more lol. I was going to try and start this soon but I think I will have to wait a few more weeks before I buy all my ingredients. I really like the mixture you gave me, I was thinking of something exactly along those lines. So far I can find everything bud the feather meal. Should I get both the mushroom compost, and cow compost?

Its going to cost me about 350$ to order everything, I was thinking maybe it would be cheaper if I went and took a trip to a hydro store.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

ehh imo bro the feather meal is slightly better than cottonseed meal.but if you have the cottonseed meal instead thats fine with a blend of alfalfa.same thing with kelp meal and bone meal for example as ya know but thats the idea to blend the feeding characteristics of the medium.

the fresh casting,mushroom and cow compost(or steer in place of the cow) should all be used in conjunction with one another in varying strengths to round the mike dudes and activity in the soil so if you can swing getting them both or three of which ever of them.hell all four if your doing real good lol!!

thats good your going to wait a small bit..in all honesty Im still thinking..lol these thing you'll need yes.Im more talking about the measurements is all.so yeah bro get these things and when you have them please get with me and Im certain by then ill have a four or five month medium youll be able to use in an automatic drip system man.

yeah i know you can get cow n mushie composts pretty cheap locally in most areas.castings and steer tend to be more difficult.for me anyways lol i know kelp4less has an excellent selection.if you want to order from there id be happy to get a list of materials since they have free shipping too.i assume their quality is decent since ive not heard anything bad to date.but they offer a ton of awesome stuff.cheap too! but a hydro store will rip you off screw them bro lol!!:Sharing One:

 

[JAYAR]

Getting expensive quick lol might have to push this back some to set it up right and cook right. Im not trying to make a huge batch tho since i grow only 2 plants at a time and in 1 gallon pots and autos mostly. Sooo much research to do!

 

[Eyes on Fire]

you can do smaller batches they just dont blend as easily and it takes twice as long essentially to have it become mostly ready.but keeping it warm will help with a smaller batch also. but when you buy stuff instead of making them it can get pricey noo doubt. but the kelp4less place you should be able to pick up all the basic things and then some with free shipping for really really cheap.and even a few more things youll be able to afford,cuaz once you have those materials most of you guiys i imagine have coco so thats cool and soil is pretty cheap.even for dr earths or whatever your using if its organic though. but yeah shouldnt be too difficult id imagine.I know A4 has a TON of ideas about that sort of thing as well. so maybe shoot him a PM..?:Sharing One: