New Grower Auto genetic stability. :is this indica dominant?

[Peter Pan]

hello growers,
Well this is my 41 days Heavyweight Vast&Fast supposed to be 80% Indica 20% sativa. well I am very satisfied the plant did well and also recovered fast from stunted by transplant. It does not remind me of a Indica dominant except the bushy structure the leafs are more sativa like am I wrong. Are genetics in Autos stable or we have long way ahead us for perfecting autos? :MmmMedibles..:

 

[Peter Pan]

For example this is my amnesia haze 50 sativa 50 indica yet looks much more indica dominantt to me ???H Reading..?:

 

[Trapper]

The only way to achieve pure 100% stability (AFAIK) is cloning...same plant, same dominant traits.
And cloning is only for the photo world.

From seed, it's my understanding that even if a strain exhibits 3 or 4 phenotypes (auto or photo)
that it's considered stable or "locked in"

I think that's just the way the cookie crumbles when it comes to hybrids and crosses. They can't
lock it down to only one pheno type ALWAYS exhibiting (from seed).

So "stable" is a subjective term as it relates to expectation.

I think it would be incorrect to consider any strain "unstable" simply because it exhibits two or
more differing phenotypes. Auto or photo.

For what it's worth though, I've been hearing about herm and pheno issues with the Fast&Vast
line from Heavyweight.

I've also found that leaf shape changes as a plant gets older...I've had plants that the first few
sets of fan leaves were EXTREMELY Indica...short, fat fingers...that changed into Sati-thin leaves
as it got older and taller. So leaf shape and plant height are sometimes independent in hybrids.

The stability of a strain is more dependent on the breeding work/diligence and pheno selection
than it is dependent on whether it's auto or not.

For what it's worth, I don't think that Amnesia looks particularly Indi-dom...looks more 50/50
to me at this point.

My 2 cents.

 

[Peter Pan]

Well exactly my friend look at this Amnesia Haze much different leaf structure.!!!

 

[Trapper]

Yeah, that one looks more Sati-dom

 

[blessedinwashington]

This is a pet peeve of mine and it just may be timing. When I buy marigold seeds, I am guaranteed that I am going to have a certain color flower at a certain height and width. Same with corn, beans, etc.

So why don't we have this in Cannabis genetics? I would assume that is because no one has bred for uniformity yet or has had enough generations backcrossing to achieve the uniformity. I wonder also if as we move to a legal cannabis society, if this will become a priority in breeding programs.

 

[Trapper]

It may just be the case that not enough scholarly diligence has been performed/documented
due to the nature of the subject matter. It may also be that the genetic dominance battle
of cannabis hybrids is more complicated....

 

[Grey Bear]

We have to remember what an adaptive plant cannabis is.

Indica & Sativa is as much about plant structure and flower structure as it is leaf structure.
I tend to evaluate dominance by flower structure, as that tends to give me a more reliable expectation of the effect it gives.

Indica plants developed in cooler climates which necessitate broader leaf development, however when subjected to higher temps their leaves tend to narrow as trapper mention.
They tend to stay shorter and bushier with denser round ball shaped buds in comparison to Sativa plants which tend to be taller, with long less dense buds on almost vine like branches.

Environment has a lot to do with production, so that always has to considered.

 

[blessedinwashington]

It would take time and money to do it, so who knows why it hasn't been done. Being illegal and black market isn't conducive to such work.