well i went through my whole last cycle trying to figure out what the problem was and almost lost the whole grow now im on the next run and i am still trying to fix this problem that i never use to have till i finally put 2 n 2 together and did a lil research on my botanigard 22WP to find out it can cause the plants to uptake (N) from the atmospere. well that fit my problems that started with extremely dark green leaves then progressed to looking lleathery and over persperation throught the leaves and finally lock out of K and mag and possibly another micro or 2. so im pretty sure when i used the botanigard in early veg it has flourished in my coco to the point that if i feed any of my nutes (AN Sensi / Connie) they just get worse and worse at only 200ppm with huge plants thlat fill my 3.4 gal air pot it looks way over done in N and def in everyother Nutrient. i would stop feeding nutes that have N but i cant cause i need the cal and mag thats in the same bottles and even if i didnt feed anything i think they would still be getting way to much N... someone please help me kill these not so benifical fungi before i almost lose this crop like the last.......... this problem caused me to only yeild a pound where i usually get 4 or more and it has put me in a major finacal bind as well as leaving the patience i supply without the meds they need. if i cant get this straightened out like yesterday im not gonna be in a very good situation as i have it all riding on this harvest. sorry for so long and all the whinnning im just really stressed about not being able to provide for my family and my patients.... any help will be greatly appreciated
botanigard 22wp nitrogen fixxing fungi.... HELP (N) TOXICITY
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If I understand correctly this botanigard only attacks (and lives) on living organisms. It seems a form of cordiceps (which is a super awesome fungi). However, this type should not affect your plant whatsoever, because why would it? It lives off of bugs, not vegetables. I think you should seek the cause of your problems somewhere else. If you lock out K and some micro elements you soil just might be too wet. The airation of your pots can be malfunctioning or something like that. There's also a lot of other different fungi that live in, and feed on coco. Why would you even grow on coco? A good rich soil is way easier and has less problems. I've seen about 8 different fungi flourish on just one square inch of coco, without nutes and all that. The only solution for me was drying the soil out, letting almost every plant die and replant them into potting soil. All other methods could cause your plants to die in higher rates, like adding soap or salt to your water. I don't think botanigard is the problem to be honest. Also the N-uptake from the air seems a bit farfetched, since only a few plant species can actually do this effectively.
maybe its not the botanigard. is just wim not sure what it is then. coco is just a lil more convenent for me or it was at the ti e when i first started growing about 4 years back and i stuck with it cause i kept getting awsome results up till my past 2 runns. im in air pots so they should be draining properly. The reason ive been kinda blaming the problem on the botanigard is because ive never had a problem like this till about a week after i used it on my last runn and and now im on my next at the end of my veg period and i havent fed no higher than 750ppm with sensi a and b ph perfect but the (N) overdose or what ever it is started to cause the clawing affect with dark dark green leathery leaves starting at the top going downand a lil bit of scorching or burning inbetween the viens im suspecting to be mag locking out and the lower leavesshow like potasium def (leaves yelowing from the outside leaf edges goin in followed by brown edges and sometimes some redd streaks in the leaf veins and red purple stems. for about 2 weeks i have not fed more than 300ppm every 2nd or 3rd day depending on how dry the pots are. Btw i just got off the phone with advanced nutes and they told me to water every day no matter what with coco but i dont care what they say cause if i did that i would definatly just make it worse like ur saying from being to wet of a medium. if its not the botanigard causeig this then how could i be looking at what looks to me to be N toxicity when for 2 weeks i have been feeding no more than 200-350 ppm each feeding when i would normally be feeding 3-4 times that. Could it possibly be caused by some kind of material in my grow room leaching or off gassing some type of chemical that could be building up in my room since it is a sealed room without in or out vents. i just supplement co2 at 1500 ppm
I just called advanced nutrients today and they told me the exact opposite about watering. they gave me a few things they said i was doing wrong that may be causeing my problem. 1 they said i had to follow there feeding chart to a Tee they said i must water everyday with a full strength dose mixxed full str following thier feed chart.2 He also told me that i could not use Drip Clean with ph perfect that it was probably washing out the stuff that makes the ph perfect work. they also said not to use calmag even though i was in coco with ph perfect they said i wouldnt need it and that even when in flower to use the additives and bud boosters at full str every feed exactly as there feed chart says. i just dont see there advice being to sound but maybe im wrong. when i told him that by experiance my plants would not handle water everday nor would thay handle that much nutes on a dailly bases. he replied by sayin that its a system that must be followed directly for it to work properly. i didnt like how they try to fast talk and awnser before i could even finesh with my question, half the time there awnser had nothing to do with my ? but more to do with me useing more nutrients and only nutrients from them. but i dont know maybe im wrong and should follow there advice but thats hard get dry to do when their advice conflict there own advice and my experience. i always let my coco get pretty dry between waterings at least the top inch of coco is dry completly before i water tiill i get a week or 2 into flower then i go to watering every day then a week or so ill be watering probably 2 times a day till harvest.
if there is anyone out there that grows in coco and uses sensi for veg and connie for flower any help would be appreiatted. what would be really great is to see someone that uses ph perfect in coco's feeding log with what nutes they use by week and what ml per ltr they use each feedng. CALLING ALL PH PERFECT COCO COIR PROS SAVE MY GROW
Maybe you could show some pictures of the actual problems. There's much more to tell from pictures in my opninion. Also, if you're using 'biological' nutes, there should be no need for extra ph-adjustments. The people on the phone don't grow themselves and just read what's on their computer screen, of course they'll tell you that their system is all you need. But there's a truth in what they've told you; if you use different kinds of nutes from different brands, these will counter each other. For instance: canna terra flores is made for the use of tapwater in biogrows, a PH 'decreaser' is already added to that nutes-solution. If you then add another ph-adjustment solution, the PH will drop from the already adjusted (lets say) PH6 to PH4.5. Maybe the same thing is going on in your grow: advanced nutes has already made your nutes at the right PH value if you just add water, then when you add PH perfect to your water, the PH drops even more than it's supposed to do, causing problems with micronutrients like Mg and Calcium. I don't know if that makes any sense to you, it's difficult to explain when you're not typing in your native language.
Stick your finger deep into the soil and when it feels dry at 10cm depth you should water again. If you water when your coco is still wet, the roots wil die off.
Stick your finger deep into the soil and when it feels dry at 10cm depth you should water again. If you water when your coco is still wet, the roots wil die off.
ill get some pictures up here soon.sometime tonight. i appreciate u taking the time try to help.
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