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are you talking about tea brewers? Pig is out for the time being and my good friend and mentor brother X is dead.may he rest and be stoned in peace now. but loud pipes might be about. but if its a home kit i would personally avoid it since its actually a scientific thing with water flow in a 5 gallon bucket of larger. vortex brewers look cool and thats quite literally all they do.look cool LOL so you need to get an actually circulating and heavy churning whilst not have too much or too little bubbles to over charge or under charge(essentially killing your tea) or bubbling it out of the bucket. imo I would recommend getting a tea labs tea snake and appropriate pump. they sell the whole kit. Ive had mine for years with zero issues. trust me here,some of the best tea stuffs and brewers on the market and science and vids to back it.