Follow up to late flowering lsd25

[hillbillydeville]

@Waira @namvet25 @Hevialy Medicated. With all the good advice handed out just wanted follow up with the results. Quick recap, 4 lsd 25. One flowered at day 20, day33 and the last 2 day 45&46.I wasn't able to try the reduction to 12/12 lighting. Was able to get a couple cycles at 12:12 then back to the normal light schedule. I did give them a good dose of bloom bites and maybe it was the combination of the two that finally brought them to flower. Thanks

 

[namvet25]

Glad it worked out for you.I have a LSD at 2weeks old so i'll see what happens with bloom time on mine.

 

[hillbillydeville]

Had a ph issue that may have contributed to this. Turns out my meter was way off and my medium was very acidic. It really showed itself when these eventually flowered, had a p lockout that hurt the yield of the only one I've harvested. Still yielded 4.5 oz the ones pictured are on day 76 with no cloudy tricks. Once again thank you and the best on your grow.

 

[Rev. Green Genes]

watch out for hermies developing. I am not sure with mine if it was the light burn, or the changing daylight cycles that did it.

 

[Waira]

HBD! ..nice save brudda, they look juicy! That sure did the trick, but bear in mind the gear-grinding between light hours can make for hermie issues,....
The plant here, is this the one with overly acidic soil? This is a good case study plant my friend,.. I don't see anything in the literature (so far) that link P and Ca together, but time and time again, I see these symptoms that overlap with both P and Ca defc's,... the finer spotting often hugging the midribs/veins, red-ish color, are classic Ca defc.,.. but the broader necrotic patches, yellowing hint more at P defc., but Ca can do similar things when advanced,... certainly both can happen at the same time,... P locks out sooner under acidic conditions, but Ca availability suffers as well,... the chart only tell part of the picture too,.. there can be other nute elements that start to compete with uptake if the feeds become rich or accumulate in the soil,... All said, I think the buds will be fine! :drool: who cares what the fans look like by harvest, they served their purpose! Thanks for updating us HBD-- take that for your efforts!

 

[hillbillydeville]

Man I spent hours studying that chart and the pics you've posted. At first it was definitely a p lockout. Later I noticed symptoms of a cal issue also. I grow under a de 1000watt and don't normally experience the cal mag issues that led causes. The biggest contributor to this is I didn't lime the pro mix. So when the late flower issue came up one of y'all's recommendation was to hit it with bloom bites to try to jumpstart the flowering process well I did a water from the bottom up with a box store fert that was like 12/55/35 and that's where my acid issue started at. I still managed to have a respectable grow despite the issues I actually let one of these grow on its own with only a week of pony tailing it made it to 39 inches in height but had the lockout issues had I not made the mistakes it would have been a monster. They still have turned out well and I wanted u to see the results of your suggestions many thanks.only disappointment was out of 4 plants none were purple phenos

 

[hillbillydeville]

watch out for hermies developing. I am not sure with mine if it was the light burn, or the changing daylight cycles that did it.

I wondered about it also. It was impossible to Finnish these under 12/12 so I put them in another room for 2 days to get them started flowering and when I saw those little stars forming I knew I dodged that bullet

 

[Waira]

...I hear you man, I'm finding the pics are a good starting point, and if you're lucky, the more common symptoms appear,.. but there can be odd ones, especially when other nutes and off-pH get mixed in! so much interrelation between them and how the affect each others uptakes, plus salt build up causing competitive lock out along with pH drift,... things can snowball into a shit-show fast,... and it's a knot that needs be teased apart sometimes!
I think the combo of bottom feed (where all the extra nute salts, etc. accumulate) and the sheer strength of that booster were to blame,.. such synthetic products are brutally acidic (I use Hawaiian Bud sometimes, and it's fekkin' ridiculous how acidic it is),.. plus, as the roots take in cations, they release H+ in the swap, so medium pH get that acid input as well in the immediate root zone,...

0/4 on color phenos,.. weirdly unlikely!

 

[hillbillydeville]

Lessons learned from this, no sub for a good ph pen, the lockouts may have influenced the pheno, one of these had no issues and is by far the most aromatic and best looking of the bunch. As with anything in life experience is a good teacher just one helluva way to learn .Ive also learned that several things need to work in harmony to reach full potential in autos.i cut my teeth on photos and find them more to my liking, yet also like a good challenge like autos bring will send some final pics when they reach the end