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[Frankthetank]

I switched the garden over to Advanced Nutrients…. I’m using Tangs Easy Schedule as a starting place, with a few tweaks….and I’ll go from there….

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I’m still waiting for Big Bud to get here…

 

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I’m still waiting for Big Bud to get here…

FWIW when I follow floraflex schedule they call for flush last couple weeks. I don’t do that just feed the last full strength feed till chop. I only say something cause I see you have a question mark next to that

 

[Frankthetank]

FWIW when I follow floraflex schedule they call for flush last couple weeks. I don’t do that just feed the last full strength feed till chop. I only say something cause I see you have a question mark next to that

Thanks…. I wasn’t sure what I was going to do either way, but leaning towards not. It’s just something AN suggests. I’ve been feeding the older plants full strength and will probably continue doing that…..

 

[BII]

Keep in mind that the Sensi-Cal (cal-mag) has rather high N.

 

[Frankthetank]

Keep in mind that the Sensi-Cal (cal-mag) has rather high N.

Thanks… I’m not actually using it, I just got it in case, but after reading labels, realized I can increase bud candy for a mag boost. I’ve got gypsum if I think cal is lacking.

 

[BII]

Thanks… I’m not actually using it, I just got it in case, but after reading labels, realized I can increase bud candy for a mag boost. I’ve got gypsum if I think cal is lacking.

For magnesium supplementation, rather than the complex mixture of Bud Candy, first consider epsom salt (magnesium sulfate). It's very commonly used for growing, fully soluble, super cheap and available at any drug and even food stores. And epsom salt can be given foliarly, unlike Bud Candy.

Regarding following "Tangs Easy Schedule," is this TaNg's regimen using Adv. Nutr. pH Perfect Bloom base nutes from start to finish (which worked for me when I tried it back when it was originally documented here on AFN).

I too use the Connoisseur (the premium) Adv. Nutr. base nutes. In bloom, I generally feed at ≥2.5 mL/L (out of recommended 4 mL/L), while you use 2 mL/L. I see problems if I go higher. And as I've done sometimes, it looks like you just use Overdrive as an all-purpose bloom booster.

 

[Frankthetank]

first consider epsom salt (magnesium sulfate). It's ver

I’ve got that on hand too…

TaNg's regimen using Adv. Nutr. pH Perfect Bloom base nutes from start to finish (which worked for me when I tried it back when it was originally documented here on AFN).

Yes, but I decided to use connoisseur instead…

just use Overdrive as an all-purpose bloom booster.

Overdrive will get used in the end of flower, whereas big bud will get used in the beginning of flower…

 

[Waira]

I switched the garden over to Advanced Nutrients…. I’m using Tangs Easy Schedule as a starting place, with a few tweaks….and I’ll go from there….

Frankie my man, how ya doin'? ...I see a second tent has been deployed-
Working on a garage-based dispensary?

I'm actually glad you stepped off the GLN train, this all-in-one thing definitely has it's pro's and con's...

IMO, MC has never struck a proper balance of NPK, not the 1-part or 2-part. N content the main problem overall, too much barring veg' stage, and that rather conditional with a variety of personal grow specifics. In bloom stage, it's too damn much period and it shows more often than not IME... N is monkey wrench in bloom stage, excess doesn't just get "stored", it's metabolism is hard wired and it messes with bud:leaf ratio, trich production, and can fuck with other nutrients uptake and metabolism... *(amended)-- don't get me wrong, some N is good the whole way, buds are mass and N is a building block for this, but too much makes the plant shift "processing gears" to the potential detriment of other desired productions LOL

.... I never liked it because of the utter lack of ability to tinker and adjust without dragging in all the other stuff that's built in. We know that different plants/cultivars, even pheno's can and do have different appetites. One size does not fit all, though GLN has made a good stab at this I must admit.
A note to regard, they often tinker with content and ratio's and sometimes it's not exactly advertised! Change = change, subtle or otherwise, and sneaky stuff like this can bite the users ass on occasion...

Some of their products like the Bloom booster and Sweet Candy are good by themselves, but are pretty damn rich in PK (SC wasn't early on, why they slapped so much PK into it is a mystery to me),... if one uses both, it's all too easy to overdose and kick off antagonistic uptake problems, which snowballs into pH problems and then it's a certified shit-show clusterfuck to get that ship righted again!
Folks forget it's possible to have this mess start with not much in the way of symptoms initially, and/or easy to misinterpret and misdiagnose what one does see... it's actually very goddamn complex, what-all is going on down there LOL

Have you seen these charts before? They are from the APTUS grow bible, and are among the best out there... The whole PDF is online, and worth a read!
I really like the first one showing relative demand at stages over time... in fact, Ca and Mg loom larger than many realize during bloom, particularly at early-->mid stages...also note that hammering with high P late in the game is more liability than benefit... And K (along with S and certain micro's, not shown here) are big actors in this last stage for the terp' & trich' show...

Sick Bay here has more charts and such in the Defc. Pic Depot, pg.2 ... Mulder's Wheel is another good one, though hard to interpret properly at times.. I call it Mulder's Wheel of Confusion -- but it can help clarify how and what nute elements interfere with other(s)... the next chart does a nice job of this too

Anyway, something to chew on! I hope it helps...
Water quality is so key, seems you have that figured out though. I do the same, mix my high ppm tap with RO or better still the self-fill drinking water I get from a local vendor (light charge of ions to better affect taste, plus super low ppm water isn't really good for you... serious osmotic action with that!

The hard water issue is no joke, all that CaCO3 isn't really available Ca++, just doesn't work that way... It's only weakly soluble in water, and free Ca++ is wildly reactive with that 2+ charge; if it ain't chelated quickly, it'll probably hook up with something that locks it out for good...
Do consider a humic-fulvic supplement (many benefits including chelation), and a micronute one as well... Bio-Ag Ful-Humic powder is the bomb stuff, inexpensive, hugely concentrated, 100g's will last you for years probably.
They also make amino-chelated micronutes and Ca supp's, both of which I use and really like! ...Tinker tinker, tweak tweak, and in the case of micro's, butt-cover as a regular input. The small amounts used make the N content of the amino's negligible, and the plant can take the whole complex directly in...

 

[Frankthetank]

Frankie my man, how ya doin'? ...I see a second tent has been deployed-
Working on a garage-based dispensar

Evening my friend Doing well, how have you been?

I stepped down from the 5x5 to two 2x4’s….saves me a little on electricity that way..

I'm actually glad you stepped off the GLN train, this all-in-one thing definitely has it's pro's and con's...

Yep, I gave it the ol’ college try, that’s for sure. As you say, they never stopped fiddling with the recipe, so it was constant guessing.

Have you seen these charts before?

Yes, you turned me onto them when LS was helping me fix a local commercial grower’s fubar garden…. But I do appreciate the refresher

consider a humic-fulvic supplement (many benefits including chelation), and a micronute one as wel

I appreciate the recommendation, I went ahead and ordered some of AN’s Tasty Terps (formerly called nirvana)…. It’s got some humic and fulvics, and a good start on some micros. I wanted to stick with AN products so as not to mess with their ph perfect system.

I’m going to run what I’ve got for awhile now, and see how the garden does. I think this is a good start, and should be a nice upgrade over the GLN products.

I really appreciate the input, my friend. Have a great evening.

 

[Waira]

Evening my friend Doing well, how have you been?

I stepped down from the 5x5 to two 2x4’s….saves me a little on electricity that way..

All's well enough here,the season is done and I'm up to my nipp's in bud!

...ahhh, less is more.... And you have some handy life cycle stage flexibility now too...
What height are the 2x4's? I have the same but it's only 5' high, which can be a issue at times... Well maybe not so much for me, since I have an infamous shrink ray on my auto's

Yep, I gave it the ol’ college try, that’s for sure. As you say, they never stopped fiddling with the recipe, so it was constant guessing.

The challenge is formidable indeed, Kudos to GLN for trying and they do have one of the best "all-in-one" formulations out there...but there's a reason very few companies try this.
I found it ironic that they did eventually go to an optional 2-part regime, but the one extra part is just a massive N-bomb which is the opposite of what they should have done!

If they were going to give in to this, they should have made a bloom stage only formulation... Besides, they already have several other supp's anyway that in theory are redundant....? LOL
I do like their Kelp, and I wish they'd offer the dry enzymes again (boy did that start to stink to high fek when it started to go south,... both actually!)...
The dry formulations last longer, but keeping the moisture out of them is critical. Both are hydrophyllic AF, needing a fat dessicant pack and/or splitting the bag up and sealing one totally air tight.

I appreciate the recommendation, I went ahead and ordered some of AN’s Tasty Terps (formerly called nirvana)…. It’s got some humic and fulvics, and a good start on some micros. I wanted to stick with AN products so as not to mess with their ph perfect system.

I’m going to run what I’ve got for awhile now, and see how the garden does. I think this is a good start, and should be a nice upgrade over the GLN products.

I really appreciate the input, my friend. Have a great evening.

Oh yeah, now I remember about the charts ... I hope they were of some help!
Their formulations are solid, h-f's are always a part of them. I just like to have a Swiss Army Knife stash of supp's around in case a plant needs a little something, like epsoms, which are raw going in, no chelation/protection for those ions... Humic does other wonders for most media too...
Are you in true soil, or coco, peat?