:smoking: Me too, and pheno' stability can only go so far when dealing with seeds (always a genetic remix, even with fem'ing) and what are nearly all poly-hybrid strains. One thing I like about Sweet and Mephisto is that they offer up specifics about the F-generations, plus with a lot of grows of a given strain, we can see for ourselves how they vary-

.... After talking with and following some Indie breeders here, one can see just how difficult it can be so make something even half way stable! No small amount of good luck is involved, and one must have that Magic Eye to spot the right pheno's to work with and the fortune to get them. FullDuplex and his Anvil line were an amazing story here, and a perfect case in point. He had all stars line up for him, and was able to get things locked down very fast and then was able to work pheno's into new directions, years ahead of schedule IMO! If you guys haven't poked around his section (Mandalorian Genetics), it's a great read!