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[marshallbdg]

this is my attitude with ilgm too. personal experince has been good. but i appreciate posts like this so people can share their opinions

Animal cruelty is clearly a different story than what we’re talking about here.


That said, whatever. I stick by what I said to OP…. Which is that their personal experience counts. As does everyone’s. I find it inappropriate that you’ve jumped in here to try and silence our personal opinions. I get it. You hate them, and feel justified as doing so.

If you, as the owner of this site, would like to put out a list of companies we can and can’t speak about. Do so… at least let us know the parameters of the censorship you’re pushing here.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Animal cruelty is clearly a different story than what we’re talking about here.


That said, whatever. I stick by what I said to OP…. Which is that their personal experience counts. As does everyone’s. I find it inappropriate that you’ve jumped in here to try and silence our personal opinions. I get it. You hate them, and feel justified as doing so.

If you, as the owner of this site, would like to put out a list of companies we can and can’t speak about. Do so… at least let us know the parameters of the censorship you’re pushing here.

First, there is no censorship of breeders or companies on this forum. Members are free to discuss genetics, vendors, and experiences—positive and negative—so long as those discussions follow our rules around conduct and evidence. We do not maintain a “do not discuss” list, and we never have. The idea that disagreement or scrutiny equals censorship is simply not accurate.

Second, having an opinion as a forum owner is not the same as enforcing one. I’m a grower first, just like everyone else here. I’ve been part of this community for a long time, and I’ve had both good and bad experiences with companies over the years. Sharing those experiences—especially when they’re relevant to ongoing discussion—is not an abuse of position, nor does it invalidate anyone else’s differing view.

Members are free to disagree with me (and many do.)

Third, the idea that “growers don’t care about a company’s history or inner workings” doesn’t reflect reality—especially in a community like this one. Transparency matters. It matters when:

• genetics are white-labeled or misrepresented
• customer service or ethics affect buyers
• credit for breeding work is disputed
• patterns of behavior repeat over time

Ignoring history doesn’t make it disappear—it just removes context. And context is how growers make informed decisions.

Talking about controversial topics is not “bandwagon hate” by default. It’s how communities self-educate. Not every criticism is valid, and not every company accused of wrongdoing is guilty—but open discussion allows facts, timelines, and firsthand experiences to be examined rather than buried. That benefits everyone, including newer growers who don’t yet have the background to spot red flags.

It’s also worth saying this clearly: no company, whether an active vendor on this forum or not, is entitled to protection from criticism, just as no member is required to agree with that criticism. Support the breeder if you believe in them. Share your positive experiences. That’s how a balanced conversation works. But asking the forum—or its staff—to refrain from discussing documented issues or firsthand experiences crosses into limiting discourse, which is the opposite of what you’re accusing us of doing.

This forum has existed for well over a decade because we prioritize:

• open discussion
• peer-based learning
• transparency over marketing
• community trust over brand loyalty

Those principles don’t change depending on who the company is.

If you believe criticism is unfair, the best response is not to silence discussion—but to counter it with evidence and experience. That’s how strong communities grow, and that’s exactly what this space was designed to support.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

The forum turns 15 years old this New Years; this isn't our first rodeo.

 

[sc0rpi000]

sorry all, didn't want to ignite any arguments here... just to merely share a positive experience. i agree in that i never thought or expected companies like ilgm to be doing their own inhouse breeding. but ultimately a space to be able to share thoughts and concerns can only be a good thing. if i'm allowed, i agree with you all. happy new year

 

[Frankthetank]

sorry all, didn't want to ignite any arguments here... just to merely share a positive experience. i agree in that i never thought or expected companies like ilgm to be doing their own inhouse breeding. but ultimately a space to be able to share thoughts and concerns can only be a good thing. if i'm allowed, i agree with you all. happy new year

Happy New Year amigro….sorry this turned into a whole “thing”. Totally not your fault though…

 

[Son of Hobbes]

sorry all, didn't want to ignite any arguments here... just to merely share a positive experience. i agree in that i never thought or expected companies like ilgm to be doing their own inhouse breeding. but ultimately a space to be able to share thoughts and concerns can only be a good thing. if i'm allowed, i agree with you all. happy new year

You're more than welcome to share your experiences with companies on here (even if some of us don't like them lol.) I don't know if your mileage would have been any different posting on any other forum (actually I take that back, I believe we're still one of the least aggressive cannabis forums out there.)

Some days (not every day,) Frank and I could disagree about the color of the blue sky; so no worries brother.

 

[Frankthetank]

of the blue sky;

I think you mean the light blue sky, there pal /s

 

[Son of Hobbes]

I think you mean the light blue sky, there pal /s

 

[Frankthetank]

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