Just wanted to give an update after 2 wks of growing under my KIND L450. This is my first grow and from looking at other's journal entries, she seems to be right on sched growth-wise. I have seen mixed reviews on KIND (mostly negative). From my initial email to the company, they have been very punctual and quite KIND : ). Whenever I shoot them an email I usually get a response within the hour. When I call they always answer. It was their customer service and a grow journal that I read that pushed me to give KIND a chance. I understand people will talk about their Chinese diodes yatta yatta yatta.... And no, their product probably isn't the best out there. And no, they don't have Area 51's warranty, but you can find great deals on them if you search. I got mine for 450ish @mbferts.com and its been great thus far and their warranty is industry comparable. Not saying everyone should go out there and buy one, but if you're on the fence I'll tell you it's a quality product and quality service.