Please clarify. You saying the CLW gives a lower quality flower?
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Please clarify. You saying the CLW gives a lower quality flower?
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Does Topled have a phone number in the US?
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I am not the most computer savy I do not know how to make a link. I would like a opinion on this light it is sold by ledlightschina a ebay seller They have a 300 watt led light 9 band average price is around 100.00 Canadian. It kind of looks like a bysen. They say they use epileds If someone in the know or who has bought one of these units please chime in
I got my Mars Hydro II 900W on eBay for $200. It pays to look around. This unit draws about 460 watts at the wall plug.
My 4 girls are in about a 3' x 3' x5' grow space and they seem to really like this light.
My 4 girls are in about a 3' x 3' x5' grow space and they seem to really like this light.
LED on the cheap. So far it's doing what I need it to.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KL8OW0U/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1431479498&sr=1&keywords=zitrades
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KL8OW0U/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1431479498&sr=1&keywords=zitrades
I saw a scientific review of several lights and the solar Storm performed about the same as a cheap Chinese light. fact, it was the worst of the high priced lights. just goes to show paying big buck doesn't guaranty your getting anything more than a fancy package
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But, it also signals "we have a lot of gaping a-holes going off on us."
If you have an a-hole going off on you, the last thing you want to do is invoke the a-hole clause of your warranty and tell them you won't do anything to correct their problem. Do you really want to convert a gaping a-hole into a flaming one? (ha!)
It seems so counter productive to put that poison pill in the warranty. Just take care of the customer and you'll have more genuine positive support rather than managing and suppressing negative reports. Just do what's necessary and let people form their opinions.
They have a 10% discount for grow journals too. But, it has "no troublemaker" clauses too, which makes it look like they're manufacturing an image. I agree that I'd prefer not having a hot-head reviewing my lights. But, trying to manage it looks worse (IMO) than just letting the chips fall where they may.[/QUOTE]
Being a business owner I understand this clause tho from a business stand point the now known as A-hole clause could have been better thought out eg. "we pride ourselves on our customer service and as hard as we try on our (laughable) quality control somethings slip through or a component fails, we ask that you give us a chance to correct the problem before airing your grievance in public" Truth is if your saving 40% and have a one in ten chance of a problem well I'll take that chance. Another thing is the culture difference and "saving face", its considered very very rude and disrespectful to cause someone to lose face, especially on purpose. Then there is the language difference, they wrote this in Chinese then used some type of translator, so it might not even say what they meant. I lived in China over two years and they have a true capitalist outlook on business and I find that Chinese people tho sometimes slow will bend over backwards to help you and if you throw in some kind words you will find even better results they want your money and they want you to tell your friends so they can get their dollars too. There is fierce competition in China and they know it and that works in the consumer's favor.
If your short on patience and long on cash go with an american distributor you are paying for the go-between they will satisfy your concerns if you have a little patience and short on cash find a well reviewed light and go for it.
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But, it also signals "we have a lot of gaping a-holes going off on us."
If you have an a-hole going off on you, the last thing you want to do is invoke the a-hole clause of your warranty and tell them you won't do anything to correct their problem. Do you really want to convert a gaping a-hole into a flaming one? (ha!)
It seems so counter productive to put that poison pill in the warranty. Just take care of the customer and you'll have more genuine positive support rather than managing and suppressing negative reports. Just do what's necessary and let people form their opinions.
They have a 10% discount for grow journals too. But, it has "no troublemaker" clauses too, which makes it look like they're manufacturing an image. I agree that I'd prefer not having a hot-head reviewing my lights. But, trying to manage it looks worse (IMO) than just letting the chips fall where they may.[/QUOTE]
Being a business owner I understand this clause tho from a business stand point the now known as A-hole clause could have been better thought out eg. "we pride ourselves on our customer service and as hard as we try on our (laughable) quality control somethings slip through or a component fails, we ask that you give us a chance to correct the problem before airing your grievance in public" Truth is if your saving 40% and have a one in ten chance of a problem well I'll take that chance. Another thing is the culture difference and "saving face", its considered very very rude and disrespectful to cause someone to lose face, especially on purpose. Then there is the language difference, they wrote this in Chinese then used some type of translator, so it might not even say what they meant. I lived in China over two years and they have a true capitalist outlook on business and I find that Chinese people tho sometimes slow will bend over backwards to help you and if you throw in some kind words you will find even better results they want your money and they want you to tell your friends so they can get their dollars too. There is fierce competition in China and they know it and that works in the consumer's favor.
If your short on patience and long on cash go with an american distributor you are paying for the go-between they will satisfy your concerns if you have a little patience and short on cash find a well reviewed light and go for it.
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That heat sink isnt going to matter one whit and I havent researched all of those components but two of the three you listed now farm out their LED production to guess who? Phillips the largest by far since at least 05 http://optics.org/news/6/3/45 I noticed your name ecosunlite you wouldnt happen to be trying to hock your lights in here would you? there is a vendor section and you can sponsor this site I believe both of which you should look into along with the rules
